Wolverine vs. deathstroke

Originally posted by soleran30
lol and also not as good in combat situations with multiple high level (far beyond human)combatants.......

Most of the time Wolverine wins not because he is such an awesome fighter but simply due to his healing..........does he have good skills....yes, however he is written more as a hack and slash let the healing factor handle it kinda guy.

Even so, it's effective. He has the ABILITY to fight more precisely but like you said, he can count on his healing factor so he's free to fight in a more effective way.. all offense.

DS doesn't have the durability to to hang up close. Having your ribs removed has gotta put a damper on your agility.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Yeah, I have a question. What's to stop Wolverine from severing DS's head from his body? Apparently he DOES get hit from time to time... and last time I checked his bones aren't laced with adamantium.

You mean besides usperhuman agility, a sword that can stand up to Logan's Claws and the ability to predict Wolverine's next move? Nothing I guess. 😎

Originally posted by Warmonger
You mean besides usperhuman agility, a sword that can stand up to Logan's Claws and the ability to predict Wolverine's next move? Nothing I guess. 😎

Superhuman agility that will save him every single time forever from every attack? 😛

The sword that will be cut in two pieces by a superior piece of metal?

The ability to predict moves so well that he's been hit countless times by street level thugs? 😆

Decapitation is the name of the game.

Wolverine got k.o'd by aunt may with a lamp...See, I can be stupid too, scotsman! 😱

Anyways, Wolverine is too slow, too weak, too dumb and way, way too one dimensional to win.

8/10 Slade.

Originally posted by long pig
Wolverine got k.o'd by aunt may with a lamp...See, I can be stupid too, scotsman! 😱

Anyways, Wolverine is too slow, too weak, too dumb and way, way too one dimensional to win.

8/10 Slade.

He's not too slow, not too weak, and one dimensional is all that is needed for this fight. He's not fighting Thor.

Durability for the win.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Strength: Deahstroke> Wolverine.
Strength makes no differencein this fight so this stat is worthless.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Fighting Skills: Wolverine > Deathstroke.
Wolverine doesn't need grenades, swords, etc. to win. He relies on his fighting ability which he has been enhancing for over 100 years.

No Wolverine relies on his healing facotr to save him. Ask the New Breed Werewolves when they were wiping the floor with him. Hell if beign a n hundred years old is enough to become better than everyone why does Elektra stick it to him?

Originally posted by scotsmn
Experience: Wolverine > Deathstroke.
Wolverine has been there, done that. He has been in a lot more fights than DS.

Experince doing what running around in the woods howling like a dog? Too fi he fought Slade in his time then he his experince might count for something.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Intellignece: Deathstroke>>>> Wolverine.
This isn't a spelling-B competition. Intelligence only comes into play if there is prep.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Durability: Wolverine>>> Slade.
1) Wolverines healing factor is much better. He will continue to heal while Slade gets slower and slower from blood loss.
2) Wolverine's bones cannot be severed from his body. Slade's CAN. Wolverine can cut right through his shoulder, through his heart and ribs and down to his opposing hip, leaving him in two pieces.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Weapons: Wolverine > Slade.
6 ADAMANTIUM claws will do very nicely in cutting off large portions of DS's flesh and bones. Adamantium > Promethium. Promethium has been broken by people who aren't even very strong. And like someone said, DS's armor is even not made of promethium...

I'm sorry but I don't see how six knives sticking out of your hand are better than and Arsenal of high powered weapons. Say it with me now: RANGE. I comend Wolverine for getting as far as he did with his limited Weapons we knew him well. 🙁

Originally posted by scotsmn
Conclusion: Wolverine wins by outlasting DS and severing limbs/head.

Slade wins by shooting Wolverine through the eye with a fragmenting bullet. 😛

Slade has no way of defeating Wolverine.

Mr. X was a telepath. Slade is not. Wolverine had also been through all kinds of fighting before reaching him. (Wolverine beats him the next 2 fights btw)

Electra never beat Wolverine. They fought and at times she was in a better position but the fights were HARDLY over. The fights would have ended with him hitting her just ONCE since she has no healing factor (how could the authors keep her character alive except by avoiding every attack?)

Slade cannot predict attacks from Wolverine while he's in Berserker rage, as you saw in his fights with Mr. X. That's when Wolverine takes Slade apart the fastest since he becomes FASTER, STRONGER, FEELS NO PAIN, SENSES MAX OUT and becomes COMPLETELY UNPREDICTABLE and FEROCIOUS. Slade would know fear, and then he would know pavement.

Slade wins by shooting Wolverine through the eye with a fragmenting bullet. stick out tongue

It's funny, people honestly think little 12 inch knives are that badass, they really, really aren't.

Originally posted by long pig
Or blowing him up, gasing him, wrapping him up in a promethium net....punching him with nerve strikes, gutting him.....what else?

It's funny, people honestly think little 12 inch knives are that badass, they really, really aren't.

Enough to sever his right arm, left arm, left leg, right leg, head, heart, lungs, spine...etc.

Originally posted by long pig
srank is slowly turning into the new wolverine8888....look, his spelling is even getting worse.

Is it some sort of wolverine fanboy virus?

Sorry about the spelling, the internet connection where I am at is so very bad and I get disconnected constantly, which really sucks since it takes for ever for the forum to load being dail up and all. That was the third time I wrote that post 😠 Can't wait until I am home with highspeed reliable internet.

And since I forgot to post it last time, that DS annual where he was burned to a crisp (annual 3 or 4 I think) was refering to the time prior to DS going crazy from the experiment that made him DS when they talked about his stats improving constantly not from when he healed from a burnt skeleton.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd once again DS with out prep time gets owned by Wolverine.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Slade has no way of defeating Wolverine.

Mr. X was a telepath. Slade is not. Wolverine had also been through all kinds of fighting before reaching him. (Wolverine beats him the next 2 fights btw)

Electra never beat Wolverine. They fought and at times she was in a better position but the fights were HARDLY over. The fights would have ended with him hitting her just ONCE since she has no healing factor (how could the authors keep her character alive except by avoiding every attack?)

Slade cannot predict attacks from Wolverine while he's in Berserker rage, as you saw in his fights with Mr. X. That's when Wolverine takes Slade apart the fastest since he becomes FASTER, STRONGER, FEELS NO PAIN, SENSES MAX OUT and becomes COMPLETELY UNPREDICTABLE and FEROCIOUS. Slade would know fear, and then he would know pavement.

Sigh I see you didn't even read my first post. Did mister X use his telepathy to kcock out Wolverine or his very unaugmented fist? Mr. X didn't even know he was a telepath. I thought you said tha Wolverine could take all kinds of bullets and knives and keep going the only thing he fought before them were a few ninjas and they din't harm him much so what was his excuse then? He slipped?

Mr.X couldn't predict Wolverine anymore because he reads minds. Hence when Wolverine went crazy he couldn't read his mind anymore. Slade simply anticipates. And unpredictable is an absolute word. Wolverine isn't unpreditable in a rage simply hard to predict. If your mind works as fast as Slade's, its probaby nto so hard.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Sorry about the spelling, the internet connection where I am at is so very bad and I get disconnected constantly, which really sucks since it takes for ever for the forum to load being dail up and all. That was the third time I wrote that post 😠 Can't wait until I am home with highspeed reliable internet.

And since I forgot to post it last time, that DS annual where he was burned to a crisp (annual 3 or 4 I think) was refering to the time prior to DS going crazy from the experiment that made him DS when they talked about his stats improving constantly not from when he healed from a burnt skeleton.

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd once again DS with out prep time gets owned by Wolverine.

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Wait.....I thought I understood you...but reading it again, you're making no sense at all.

Try again, please.

Originally posted by scotsmn
He's not too slow, not too weak, and one dimensional is all that is needed for this fight. He's not fighting Thor.

Durability for the win.

Wolverine can take normal grenades. Not Slade's grenades. (hehe, rhymes) They KO Superboy and Wondergirl. Superboy and Wondergirl SUPERBOY and WONDERGIRL Making sure you get it... Is Wolverine anywhere near as durable as Either of those 2? Is Elektra anywhere near as fast as Slade? Does Mr. X predict moves by body movement? That's a big NO to all.

Slade predicts moves by motion and body positioning, not mind reading. Mr. X works by mind reading. Therefore, when Wolvie freaks out, there's not enough coherent thought to really predict what he's going to do. However, there is PLENTY of movement.

Even if Slade doesn't kill Wolverine with grenades, he's damn fast. He regularly keeps up with Impulse, and DID stab Flash, even if it was a bit PISish. He's at least Spiderman's equal, if not better, in combat speed.

Intelligence doesn't matter in a fight? 🤨 That's half of what fighting is. Why is Wolverine accused of "not using his skills"? Not because he doesn't have them, but becasue he uses them like a complete idiot sometimes. Slade is a freaking computer. He analyzes everything, ad predicts moves and uses the environment to his advantage and whatnot. He pulls a Batgirl better than Batgirl does.

STRENGTH doesn't matter in a fight? 🤨 (yeah, you get another one) Tell that to the freaking Hulk.

Explain how Wolverine will be in a position to cut off Slade's head or legs. Slade's much faster, much stronger (kick the b!tch away!), and just as skilled. He's also packing uber-metal weapons, and a hell of a lot of powerful ranged weaponry. Guns don't make you a worse fighter... Look at the freaking Punisher. Hell, Ironman technically uses guns. So does Thanos. They just use big freaking guns, as opposed to crappy realistic stuff that Wolverine wades through.

I'm pretty sure Dark Crawler had a list of the effects of Wolverine comics on the actual Spiderman vs. Firelord thread... It's like alcohol, but better!

Originally posted by Warmonger
Sigh I see you didn't even read my first post. Did mister X use his telepathy to kcock out Wolverine or his very unaugmented fist? Mr. X didn't even know he was a telepath. I thought you said tha Wolverine could take all kinds of bullets and knives and keep going the only thing he fought before them were a few ninjas and they din't harm him much so what was his excuse then? He slipped?

Mr.X couldn't predict Wolverine anymore because he reads minds. Hence when Wolverine went crazy he couldn't read his mind anymore. Slade simply anticipates. And unpredictable is an absolute word. Wolverine isn't unpreditable in a rage simply hard to predict. If your mind works as fast as Slade's, its probaby nto so hard.

Slade gets hit by street level guys so his ability to anticipate attacks isn't all you're making it out to be. And like you said, when Wolverine goes into a rage he's difficult to predict. This makes it very likely that Slade is going to get sliced hard SOME of that time. Because Slade's healing factor is not up to snuff, those attacks are going to connect more and more often due to him slowing down and losing fingers/limbs/chunks of flesh and blood during the fight. Wolverine's attacks are going to slice DEEP every time. They will cut to and through the bone. Slade cannot heal from that during the course of a fight.

Originally posted by Dizzle

Intelligence doesn't matter in a fight? 🤨 That's half of what fighting is. Why is Wolverine accused of "not using his skills"? Not because he doesn't have them, but becasue he uses them like a complete idiot sometimes. Slade is a freaking computer. He analyzes everything, ad predicts moves and uses the environment to his advantage and whatnot. He pulls a Batgirl better than Batgirl does.

Go box mike tyson. Tell him that your intelligence will tip the scales in your favor. In the heat of battle, especially with someone as capable of ending you in one well placed hit such as Wolverine, there's little time to formulate attack sequences. It comes down to instincts you have developed by..... fighting.

Originally posted by Dizzle

STRENGTH doesn't matter in a fight? 🤨 (yeah, you get another one) Tell that to the freaking Hulk.

Strength does not matter in THIS fight. Slade's level of strength can be brushed off by a healing factor and an adamantium laced skeleton. Wolverine doesn't need much strength at all to punch through Slade's flesh.

Originally posted by scotsmn
Slade gets hit by street level guys so his ability to anticipate attacks isn't all you're making it out to be. And like you said, when Wolverine goes into a rage he's difficult to predict. This makes it very likely that Slade is going to get sliced hard SOME of that time. Because Slade's healing factor is not up to snuff, those attacks are going to connect more and more often due to him slowing down and losing fingers/limbs/chunks of flesh and blood during the fight. Wolverine's attacks are going to slice DEEP every time. They will cut to and through the bone. Slade cannot heal from that during the course of a fight.

Yes.

Infact that is a very possible scenerio.
When I decide a fight I don't say who would win because anything could happen and anyone could win (unless there is a massive disparity between the fighters). I think that the two combatans are very close once all of the factors are added up. Slade's superior weaponry and phsyical abilites vs Wolverines massive durability.

I just feel that when all of the factors are added up Slade wins more often than not. Which is why in my original post (whihc I don't think you read) I said Slade 6/10, because I feel Slade edges out Wolverine thats all.

Originally posted by Warmonger
Yes.

Infact that is a very possible scenerio.
When I decide a fight I don't say who would win because anything could happen and anyone could win (unless there is a massive disparity between the fighters). I think that the two combatans are very close once all of the factors are added up. Slade's superior weaponry and phsyical abilites vs Wolverines massive durability.

I just feel that when all of the factors are added up Slade wins more often than not. Which is why in my original post (whihc I don't think you read) I said Slade 6/10, because I feel Slade edges out Wolverine thats all.

I see your point also and I admit that Slade has advantages in some areas. However, I see it leaning the opposite direction due to Wolverine having the ability to inflict heavier damage up close (where I imagine the majority of this fight will take place) and the ability to soak up a lot more damage due to his skeleton not being pierced and his healing factor.

If Slade's got grenades w/him that took out WG and Superboy, they'd work on Wolvie also and I don't think Wolvie'd be fast enough to get far enough out of the blast radius. Slade carry sonics and flares or flashbangs? Also Slade should logically never lose to characters like Batman or Nightwing and he shouldn't have been able to do what he did to the JLA members in IC. Flash should own him and Kyle's the dumbest muthaf***a on the planet for throwing a punch😆

Originally posted by scotsmn
Go box mike tyson. Tell him that your intelligence will tip the scales in your favor. In the heat of battle, especially with someone as capable of ending you in one well placed hit such as Wolverine, there's little time to formulate attack sequences. It comes down to instincts you have developed by..... fighting.

Strength does not matter in THIS fight. Slade's level of strength can be brushed off by a healing factor and an adamantium laced skeleton. Wolverine doesn't need much strength at all to punch through Slade's flesh.

Wow how do you figure that comparison? If you think the disparity between Slade and Wolverine is as great as the disparity between aheavy weight boxer and an average guy then I think you don't knwo what your are talking about.

But to answer your question yes intellignece does make a difference. How did holyifeild beat Tyson? He fought smarter and didn't let Tyson get on a roll. Ask any fighter assesing your strentghs and your opponets weakness are one of the basic keys to winning a fight. I mean don't you think it takes intellignece to say "Hey this guy keeps coming back no matter how many bullets I put into his rib cage maybe I should shoot him somewhere else".

I mean it was Deadpool's intellignece that told him to slide his swords between Logan's ribcage and Slade is way more intelligent than that.

Logan's healing factor couldn't brush off Mr. X's beating why Slade's? It couldn't stop Guradians either? Didn't so jack when those werewolves were carving him up, didn't help when...

didn't help when...

-sigh-
It's been a good go, but I give up on these Wolverine fanboys. They're just...too...I don't know...too much for me.