Dr. Doom vs. Iron Man

Started by Never15 pages

Only way Doom wins is with prep. At normal warsuit levels (sans prep time) Iron Man wins handily.

Yeah Doom wins with Prep, Random encounter Ironman.....but...I dont know how often Doom stroll's around looking for fight's......

but if he did Ironman

What is all this "with prep"? I really fail to see how you think he would need it.

To each their own though.

-AC

i totally agree with Never! (this is kind of a slam) Doom is one of my favorites, but i can NOT understand why you people think "he is the strongest earthling!"...i cant see him as the strongest earthling at ALL!

Who said he is the strongest eathling? Most powerful human, most definitly, but NOT strongest earthling.

Doom may need some prep time, but not much, just enough to alter his armor. Ironman's suit is more complex, and that's all Ironman has going for him. He is NOT as good a strategist as Doom, nor does he have any mystical abilities to go along with his armor.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What is all this "with prep"? I really fail to see how you think he would need it.

To each their own though.

-AC

Okay. Are you current on Iron Man and Dr. Doom? If so, it would be quite clear that, in the event Doom went for a stroll to a local 7-11 and bumped into Iron Man, he would be zorched in a bang-'em-up type fight. Could Doom port out if he chose? Indubitably. Yet Iron Man's suit is MUCH superior to Doom's if we are discussing BATTLE designs. I mean...heh, this is CANON. Not my opinion. His suit is faster, maneuvers better, has more power at its disposal - good God.

However, if Doom had time to PREPARE for a battle (not sure why you miss the importance of "prep time." Batman took down Superman and, indirectly, the ENTIRE JLA "with prep." If Batman bumped into Martian Manhunter WITHOUT prep it would be...ugly. WITH prep it is a very VERY good bet that Batman would triumph) I bet on Doom. He is Starks' superior tactically. Um, if he bumped into The Beyonder WITHOUT prep do you REALLY think he would have lived longer than a picosecond? NO. But what did he accomplish WITH prep?

That's what all of this "with prep" is about.

I thought DD was ALWAYS prepared. Like, he could tell the future and could see when he'd need prep time and so had a year of prep time to prepare for the fight that would require prep time or something?

He can't see the future...wtf? When someone says he is always prepared, that means he goes through plans and strategies everyday to prepare for any situation he might encounter.

He'd probably have some kind of jamming device with him to plant on Ironman's suit anyway.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
He can't see the future...wtf? When someone says he is always prepared, that means he goes through plans and strategies everyday to prepare for any situation he might encounter.

He'd probably have some kind of jamming device with him to plant on Ironman's suit anyway.

I agree with the plans and stragegy comments, but Starks' suits are not capable of being jammed and are not susceptible to gravity, heat, cold, acid, or magnetic-based attacks either.

I mean...people are REALLY underestimating Tony Starks' Iron Man suit. It is quite nasty.

I dunno about that. Anything mechanical CAN be jammed, you just have to know how to do it.

I'm not underestimating Ironman's suit, I even stated that Doom needed prep time to win. check my post before the one you quoted.

Stark's suits are usually susceptible to Hulk's fist. That's when he seems to get banged up.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
I dunno about that. Anything mechanical CAN be jammed, you just have to know how to do it.

By the same token, all you have to know how to do is prevent said jamming. Starks is indeed a mechanical genius. My comment regarding people underestimating Iron Man's suit was directed towards those who scoffed at his changes of winning - was not directed towards you.

And Vic, Onslaught's armor was susceptible to Hulk's fist. What is your point? Doom is NOT Hulk.

Doesn't Ironman have different armors anyway? I know he has a Hulkbuster and a Thorbuster armor at least.

Yeah he has a fair few. Hulkbuster usually gets...busted.

http://www.republiquelibre.org/cousture/bd/IRNMN4C.HTM

"Yet Iron Man's suit is MUCH superior to Doom's if we are discussing BATTLE designs. I mean...heh, this is CANON. Not my opinion. His suit is faster, maneuvers better, has more power at its disposal - good God."

After reviewing my old Iron-Man, I totally agree on the superior suit count. I have said so.

The reason I'm so against prep time is people tend to use it not in the way you have. People tend to think prep time means going home after agreeing to fight someone and making an etch-a-sketch. If you mean prep time as in devising a plan to beat someone the CALIBRE of Iron-Man, then putting it to work. There for having some kind of pre-devised plan, I agree. But that is all I mean when I say he is read for anything.

-AC

totally agree with never on this. Suit capabilities are heavily in IM's favor. He's got more fire power, better armor, faster reflexes...probably brighter high beams too. 😆

With some amount of prep time, Doom should be capable of devising a plan to overtake IM.

Does anyone know how many suits Iron-Man has? Out of curiousity.

-AC

I already posted a link to all of them at the top of the page

doom rarely employs super fighting suits...the suit he wore when he took latveria back from Kristoff was pretty sick and would have easily put down iron man in my opinion...or how about the Armor that contained the entire power of a watcher?....that was was also pretty bad ass