Batman vs. Captain America

it isn't irrelevant, it's just that neither of these guys will fight like Superman.... they are both far superior to him in terms of H2H skill....observing supes only gives Bats a slight advantage that will be overcome with Cap's practical experience with the extra week...... he'll use Thor to test the limits of his strength and invulnerability...... Bat's may be good with prep time but no-one does super-fight training like Captain America

It comes down to who is the more skilled fighter, which is batman.
Cap relys on a decent amount of strength i.e wrestling.
Now that bats has superman strength his 127 master martial arts are gonna win this, unless cap throws his shield at lightspeed at the very start and lobbs off bats head. Which would be cool but totally out of character.

There is a pic floating around here that I posted on Cap telling Baron Zemo that he is master of every from combat... I think it is another Batman vs Captain America thread

Ehhhhhh, I doubt that.
I dont doubt he said this but Ii doubt he does. I also doubt bats is a master of 127 MAs.
maybe well rounded in 127 MAs, master? no.
Even so, Unlike CA, who uses more strength based attacks, Bats is more skilled at using fast precise attacks which when backed by superman strength would be unbeatable.

if the shield hits batman .

Batman go BYE BYE.

and Cap is stonger than him

Bat might be a better fighter but this is one fight he is not winning(fairly).

The shield wouldn't knock out Batman. No matter how fast it's going. Not to mention Batman would either catch or dodge it.

are you shiting me catch it?

the shield Rips robots in two (made of metal , etc) bat is bone and flesh

dodge it yes. but i said if , and Cap always gets his target.

The shield is made of an unbreakable material. Of course with enough force it can cleave through a metal robot.

Batman has a forcefield now remember? The shield would hurt but not enough to knock him out.

Cap always gets his target? Tell that to the Punisher.

Originally posted by Draco69
The shield wouldn't knock out Batman. No matter how fast it's going. Not to mention Batman would either catch or dodge it.

the shield has been shown to hurt foes much stronger than cap before and is unbreakable to even Superman...... with Superman level strength behind it it could kill almost anyone

I doubt it. Superman forcefield has withstood much worse. Not to mention Batman has severely enhanced reflexes. The shield would be going at a speed Batman can quickly react to.

Once again, they're dead even.

Batman would probably cheat. I said that they both had preptime. Fly into the sun or something. Create a tech to enhance his strength.

The both get Supes powers..It be a battle until they both tire out. No matter how fast, how strong its dead even, and it'll end in a stalemate.

Thrown with superman strength I dont see why it wouldnt behead him.
When did Superman get a force field?

Superman's powers are actually just a form of TK.

The shield would be going extremely fast. However with Batman's fighting skills and Superman's lightening fast reflexes ten to one he would catch it or dodge it.

well if they are both preparing and if it was for the world or something i'm sure Cap could get tech help from Iron Man and Mister Fantastic, plus with full knowledge of the powers he would also have to know about the sun part..... he could get concentrated solar blasts from vision

one thing is more sure batman can't win this buy fighting fare.

Cap: is a super human , he will match and beat batman is strengh , durabilty etc.

and don't tell me bat is gonna stop his shield very few people have done that(much stronger) i have seen it hurt the hulk before.

well am not saying batman can't win , but a fare fight with him using his normal tools , vs cap i don't see a win for bat.

but like you said with prep time batman has the resources to beat him.

So several years of top-secret information on Superman's powers, abilities and capabilities is completely irrevalent. Batman works with Superman. He knows how to use them well, because he observes Superman. Another major deciding factor is that Batman knows Superman's weaknesses. And I don't mean kryptonite. I mean the limitations and liabilities of his powers. There's no better forebearer of this knowledge than Superman. Not to mention Batman is a master of preptime. He'd cheat.

Not exactly.

One of Supes abilities is also the speed at which he processes information. This added ability added to Captain America's already high level tactical knowledge evens the playing field. He'd be able to catch up to Batman's knowledge of Superman's abilities with the extra week of processing his abilities at super cognitive speed, then stategize the second week on how to use these abilities to their fullest destructive extent.

After that, it comes down to just being Supes vs. Supes with an indestructible impact absorbing shield.

Yes and batman will be the one left in the dark in the field of processing information quickly.

Look you are talking about a field in which batman is the best at. So you see my delema.

No, you misunderstand. Batman will not be left in the dark. The super processing (and extra week) levels the playing field. They'll both fight and counter at the same speed, except Cap will have an indestructible shield.