Form six is considered the worst, though, because it's so generalized, and often hastily implemented by the new age of diplomatic Jedi, as is most often the case in the time of AOTC and ROTS. I imagine if one could master that form (Which would be an immense undertaking) one could be very versatile and perhaps outright invincible in saber combat.
Originally posted by NoMeN
Vaapad, the seventh form of lightsaber combat, takes its name from a notoriously dangerous predator native to the moons Sarapin: a vaapad attacks its prey with whipping strikes of its blindingly fast tentacles. Most have at least seven. It is not uncommon for them to have as many as twelve; the largest ever killed had twenty-three. With a vaapad, one never knew how many tentacles it had until it was dead: they move too fast to count. Almost too fast to see.Vaapad is as aggressive and powerful as its namesake, but its power comes at great risk: immersion in Vaapad opens the gates that restrain one's inner darkness. To use Vaapad, a Jedi must allow himself to enjoy the fight; he must give himself over to the thrill of battle. The rush of winning. Vaapad is a path that leads through the penumbra of the dark side.
Mace Windu created this style, and he was its only living master.
Vaapad is a channel for darkness, and that darkness flowed both ways. He accepted the furious speed of the Sith Lord, drew the shadow's rage and power into his inmost center—
And let it fountain out again.
Vaapad made him an open channel, half of a superconducting loop completed by the shadow; they became a standing wave of battle that expanded into every cubic centimeter of the Chancellor's office. There was no scrap of carpet nor shred of chair that might not at any second disintegrate in flares of red or purple; lampstands became brief shields, sliced into segments that whirled through the air; couches became terrain to be climbed for advantage or overleapt in retreat. But there was still only the cycle of power, the endless loop, no wound taken on either side, not even the possibility of fatigue.
Because Vaapad is more than a fighting style. It in a state of mind: a channel for darkness. Power passed into him and out again without touching him.
And the circuit completed itself: the lightning reflected back to its source.
just to let you know, mace wasnt the only master. Darth Maul also mastered it, Depa Billaba used it, but im not sure if she was a master.
Originally posted by Darth_Nefarus
Also, Mace is the only Master, and you can't say Maul would be better this time jackstain, because Mace invented the style.
I mean, (although he didn't invent it) Mace would suck with a staff saber against Maul
i never said he was better at it......although it's not hard to be better than someone, even if they did invent the certain thing in question. He has the advantage though, because he trained harder and with a staff.
Originally posted by Darth_Nefarus
Also, Mace is the only Master, and you can't say Maul would be better this time jackstain, because Mace invented the style.
I mean, (although he didn't invent it) Mace would suck with a staff saber against Maul
also.....to master something, doesn't necessarily mean to be the best....it just means you have got it down, you're great at it, you've "mastered" it.
Yes, I know that Maul used Form 7, Vaapad, though, isn't Form 7 in itself, it's more of an addition to the form. I can't remember where, but I read somewhere that Mace invented Vaapad to complete the form, because Form 7 was incomplete. So you could say that Form 7 consist of two forms, one complete, and one incomplete. I could be wrong though, It was awhile ago.
Well, you might be right and I might be wrong, but I still know that I've read somewhere that Mace invented Vaapad after Ep1. So there's noway in hell that Maul was a practitioner of Vaapad.
If not a completion of form 7, Vaapad is at least an extension of the form.
BTW, I have read Shatterpoint, but that was awhile ago so I can't remember if Stover mention Maul in it.
That's because I'm not, I just have this memory of reading somewhere that Mace created Vaapad AFTER Ep1 to go with the darker times the GFFA was facing, after the revelation of the sith presence and all. But since I can't remember where I read it, I really can't be stating it as proof though. So if you have proof of the contrary, I would like to see that, 'cause I would hate to be misinformed.
Well, I doubt that Maul had to train harder than Mace in regards to his own style, assuming the zabrak used it (Which I think he may have). And if someone masters something, it's like second nature. A master of Form X will defeat a practitioner of Form X,Y, or Z simply because they have perfected it. And while a dual-bladed lightsaber is certainly a very effective weapon in the right hands, I don't think it beats true mastery with a single saber. For one thing, balancing and manipulating the staff is a lot more difficult than simply using a blade. And you can only attack with one end at a time, assuming you hope to recover in time to defend yourself. It's a rather awkward weapon to use, really, and one more likely to hack off a limb than a regular lightsaber. And while I won't say that Maul is an amazing fighter, Mace is a master in the Force and a master with the lightsaber. He wins, easily. Now... was that the topic of the thread originally? I've forgotten.