VAAPAD sabre techinque

im not sayin he trained in the form harder, he trained OVERALL harder.

That might or might not be true. I mean, I think Mace was perhaps the best lightsaber fighter in the order, though I have no idea what rigorous forms Maul may have had to learn as a Sith.

fair enough.

Seems so. This one needs some outside facts to push it in one direction or the other. What book was it you said had Maul's beginnings in it?

well his beginnings are in star wars episode one journal....of darth maul. its his journal through episode one and gives flashbacks and such, but its about 95 pages or so, and its not the biggest, but a good one. darth maul 😖hadow hunter on the other hand, is amazing. a whole novel, about darth maul, what more could u want. then there are some comics, but i got em all and ur better off readin the two books. i dont take anything away from the journal, its amazing. read it, but read shadow hunter also.

Gotcha. Yeah, I read a couple of comics, but they didn't seem to be too much more than illustrated storylines from books. Not my style, really.

yea....theyre kinda poo, but the two books will make u wanna crap urself.....they make u like darth maul so much more. shadow hunter is by far the best book ive ever read. journal is cool cuz its kinda like behind the scenes of episode one, and tells u about his training, like when he fights darth sidious. ive read each of em like 7321093874890312749034293827409812734987 times, shadow hunter, what a cool name.

Jackstain, I found something regarding our discussion earlier that helps prove my claim about Form 7 being incomplete:

David West Reynolds’s description of Form VII from SW: Insider, issue 62 says:
Form VII tactics overwhelm opponents with seemingly unconnected staccato
sequences, making the Form highly unpredictable in battle.... The outward
bearing of a Form VII practitioner is one of calm, but the inner pressure verges
on explosion. Form VII is still under development since so few can achieve
the necessary mastery to advance the art.

The sentence also gives merit to my statement that Vaapad is an extension of Form 7, wouldn't you say?

Not like this is the most incredible piece of evidence as far as SW criteria goes, but I notice that Form VII isn't called Vaapad in KOTOR II. It's called Juyo something... or other. Anyways, it would make sense of form VII existed to some extent over the years, and may have been reinvented or found by Mace, who later on named it Vaapad.

point is.....theyre all the same thing, whether one or two or a thousand people have mastered it doesnt matter. it existed, people used it, end of discussion in my book.

what's in a name...it's an interesting style of fighting...that's enough for me

Vaapad is actually and offshoot of the seventh form of lightsaber conbat. True form seven was made thousands of years earlier.

chilled monkey~ ???????WHAT? they DO duel, and palps does get his ass kicked 💃 💃 💃 but then anakin steps in and mace gets the shock of his life 🙁

vaapad is an awesome form. i like how mace has his wide swings.....perfectly timed against an attack.....and then that last swing to take off jangos head......perfect....

does anyone have a link to descriptions of all 7 forms of saber combat?

starwarsfreak34: Cool! Thank you.

Search for it on Wilkipedia. It'll give you an in-0depth description.

Form I
Millennia before the Clone Wars, advanced technology replaced metal swords with energy-beam lightsabers. In this transition the first Form was born. Jedi Masters created Form I from ancient sword-fighting traditions, since the principles of blade combat remained much the same. The basics of attack, parry, body target zones, and the practice drills called velocities are all here.
Form II
The ultimate refinement of lightsaber-to-lightsaber combat became Form II, advancing the precision of blade manipulation to its finest possible degree and producing the greatest dueling masters the galaxy has ever seen.
Today Form II is an archaism studied by almost no one in the Jedi Order, because it is not relevant to current tactical situations, in which Jedi enemies rarely fight with lightsabers. Even with the resurgence of the Sith, confrontation of an enemy with a lightsaber is an exceedingly rare prospect for a Jedi, so they continue to focus on more practical Forms. Sith expecting to battle lightsaber-wielding Jedi, however, find Form II a powerful technique

Form III
The third great lightsaber discipline was first developed in response to the advancement of blaster technology in the galaxy. As these weapons spread widely into the hands of evil-doers, Jedi had to develop unique means of defending themselves. Form III thus arose from "laserblast" deflection training. Over the centuries it has transcended this origin to become a highly refined expression of non-aggressive Jedi philosophy. Form III maximizes defensive protection in a style characterized by tight, efficient movements that expose minimal target area compared to the relatively open style of some of the other Forms.
Obi-Wan Kenobi takes up a dedication to Form III after the death of Qui-Gon Jinn (who favored Form IV), since it was apparent to Kenobi that Jinn's defense was insufficient against the Sith techniques of Darth Maul. True Form III masters are considered invincible. Even in his elder years, Kenobi remains a formidable Form III practitioner.

Form IV
Form IV is the most acrobatic Form, heavily emphasizing Jedi abilities to run, jump, and spin in phenomenal ways by using the Force. Masters of Form IV incorporate all of the ways in which the Force helps them go beyond what is physically possible. Their lightsaber combat is astonishing to watch, filled with elaborate moves in the center of which a Jedi may be all but a blur. Yoda, with his deep emphasis on the Force in all things, is a Form IV master. Form IV was also the chosen discipline of Qui-Gon Jinn and the early choice of his apprentice Obi-Wan Kenobi.