Jobbernaut(current Juggernaut) vs. Thing

I know Thing is no match for oldschool Juugernaut, but who would win if they fought in their current forms? I hope everyone knows that Juggy currently is not as powerful as he used to be but is still a powerhouse.

how strong is current Juggernaut ? ? ?

100 ton class or beneath ?

According to the X-men Handbook(2004) it has his strength at a 7 which is the highest. It still says that he is not as strong but still has a unknown limit.

its hard to say.... but i would go with the Thing...

he has given Hulk such great fights... who has did such great battles ... can also stand up against a weaker Juggernaut

Well in the X-Men comics with Havok, Iceman, Polaris, Wolverine, Gambit, Rouge, before Juggy went into the black hole, he was barely able to lift Colossus weight. Thats around 70 tons i believe. So it would be a very close battle.

Colossus weighs nowhere near 70 tons.

Juggernant can never be beat by colossus i repeat NEVER.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Colossus weighs nowhere near 70 tons.

colossus' weight...as in the amount of weight colossus can lift

Originally posted by Wynndar
colossus' weight...as in the amount of weight colossus can lift

Yea. CC I wasnt talking about how much Colossus weighs. I was reffering to lifting capacity. Juggernaut was training and he was struggling to lift Colossus lvl weight.

Actually now that I think about Havok told Juggernaut that he wasnt at Colossus' level yet. And I do believe that to be 100 tons if not more.

Colossus can lift 100 tons maximum, not 70. Nowadays, it could possibly be more.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Colossus can lift 100 tons maximum, not 70. Nowadays, it could possibly be more.

Why 'Jobber'naut? It's Juggernaut, regardless of downgrades.

Thing would take him I think.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Why 'Jobber'naut? It's Juggernaut, regardless of downgrades.

Thing would take him I think.

And yes, I too think Thing has this one.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
The same reason there's pre-crisis, post-crisis, and prime for Superman.

And yes, I too think Thing has this one.

Those are either official designates, or era-specific tags though.

He isn't now called 'Jobbernaut'.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Those are either official designates, or era-specific tags though.

He isn't now called 'Jobbernaut'.

Well Juggernaut fans call him that and do what you will. I personally think Ben gives him a brawl better than my sig. shows. Juggy was still powerful enough to take on Alpha Flight by himself, actually he quit fighting and let them win.

juggernaut74 you posted this having the result of the battle.

haha that was a quick victory , what was it one punch or was it two??

Well those pics are oldschool Juggy and it was two hits. The fight I posted was the current Juggernaut which could have a diff. outcome.

why current jugs is that weak??

From what i heard he is a match for Hulk so no way Ben can win