Jobbernaut(current Juggernaut) vs. Thing

Originally posted by kgkg
why current jugs is that weak??

From what i heard he is a match for Hulk so no way Ben can win

i see it always.

in cartoon , etc

and also there first aperance is always better , the more they are shown the weaker they get (somehow)

The THING takes care of the present day JUGGS. Pretty easily to i might add. Ben's strength and size have increased and Marko's has decreased. And Ben's always been the better fighter. THING wins. IMO

Thing may take this one. given juggernauts great power decrease, though he may still be able to beat thing.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
The THING takes care of the present day JUGGS. Pretty easily to i might add. Ben's strength and size have increased and Marko's has decreased. And Ben's always been the better fighter. THING wins. IMO

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I keep hearing that Thing has increased in size and strength. Well in June the FF Handbook comes out and then we will settle this once and for all. I know in the 2004 encyclopedia he is still listed at 6'0" and 500lbs. His strength is a 6 which 85 tons falls into.

In one of the recent WIZARD magazines i'm not sure which month, but the have the newest MARVEL UNIVERSES stats. The THING is now 6'8" 1500lbs.

And per Reed they are all continually changing, the cosmic rays are at all times mutating their bodies Ben is always growing in size and in strength, Reed is able to stretch further, Jonnie's flames are getting hotter, Sue's force field Etc. is always getting harder, or more dense.

Reed did not come up with an exact # for Ben's strength, but said that he was considerably stronger than the last test of strength for him. And that he must be at more than 90 Tons now, and that they would do further testing.

I haven't seen anything more about it after that.

there is no way the thing takes it, he is over rated (ima get killed for this)

current juggy is about equil if not real close to current colossus, who is much stronger, more durable and all around better than the thing.

there i said it

Well I think that Juggy may be still too much for Thing to handle. He took on Alpha Flight by himself like someone stated earlier(actually he let the Canadians win). And he beat Rhino rather easily also in his depowered form.

Originally posted by crazyspinz
there is no way the thing takes it, he is over rated (ima get killed for this)

current juggy is about equil if not real close to current colossus, who is much stronger, more durable and all around better than the thing.

there i said it

Tell that to The Champion... He will then laugh very hard and then headbutt you with his huge forehead.

😂

Current Juggernaut is still above both Colossus and Thing.
After all he was able to brawl with a "New Juggernaut", a boy that killed animals near the X-Mansion, that was transformed into a new Juggernaut, obviously stronger and tougher than Cain, but Cain still stomp him through an entire neighbourhood causing massive damage.
That issue was cool, She-Hulk says that yes, she's strong and Cain is the Juggernaut, but that guy was too much for them.They need a strategy.And Cain answers:
I've got the strategy.
I kick him from here to Westchester(translated from my italian comic book).
Anyway that issue shows that even with half of his powers and without the force field, Juggy is still strong, and the Thing isn't in his league.

Originally posted by Tony Stark
In one of the recent WIZARD magazines i'm not sure which month, but the have the newest MARVEL UNIVERSES stats. The THING is now 6'8" 1500lbs.

Juggernaut took Alpha flight...thats coo...Thing took the Avengers...

they r totally different kinds of characters...in the past juggernaut never had anything but his powers...he didnt have skills or heart like the Thing...he jus won by being empowered by external forces...now that he is weaker and vulnerable there is nothing he has on Grimm.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Juggernaut took Alpha flight...thats coo...Thing took the Avengers...

current juggs was struggle to lift a weight under colossus max
he still class 100 but current colossus lifts about 750-3000 tons

Thing splits him in half.

Now, more seriously, I've no idea of Jugg's powerlevel.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Colossus can lift 100 tons maximum, not 70. Nowadays, it could possibly be more.

current colossus lifts 750 tons minimum if his weight is 500lbs and 3000 tons if his weight is about a ton (as he has been referenced to weigh on panel) as his strength was cited as 1.5 tons per lb of weight by a nimrod

hence 750 - 3000 ton range

thing ftw 7/10

Juggs has always been a brawler. Thing is a bit more economical in hitting things. Wrong pic sry.

Originally posted by ankur29
current colossus lifts 750 tons minimum if his weight is 500lbs and 3000 tons if his weight is about a ton (as he has been referenced to weigh on panel) as his strength was cited as 1.5 tons per lb of weight by a nimrod

hence 750 - 3000 ton range

thing ftw 7/10

Did they say "significantly stronger than Thing"? Scans?

Jobbernaught lol

Don't get me wrong I am the biggest Juggernaught fan, I hate to see what the writers at Marvel are doing to him.

It's like what the writers at WWE did to Kane for all those years.

But in his current form Juggernaught could still take Thing or Colussus.

But in his prime and max power which is limitless he has no equal not even Hulk.

Even the Marvel writers admitted as much