who directed episode II?

Man - ESB from the first frame to the last is the best movie i have seen: dialougue, editing, suspense and action the movie never stops for a second, each time you think it is about to slow down it takes off again. The battle of Hoth is very well paced and shows what it needs to show to tell the story and to not blow everyone's head off for the other 1 and half hours of the movie.

The dialougue comparison is spot on. It is the reason that the two battles are so different and the fact that the cut away scenes build tension rather than relieve suspense as they do once or twice in TPM. You cant really compare the quality of the two in reference to each other, they are apples and oranges and opinions and preferences will guide your choice.

And as for the nine year old thing, get over it. There is a certain theme running through these movies that if you listened instead of fast forwarding to the action scenes you might pick up on. It is little thing called DESTINY.

"It is yourrrrr desssstinyyyyy..."

*ok I'll bite*
What about destiny 😈

Aren't we supposed to be asking you these sorts of questions?

The dialogue in ESB was just as corny as in TPM, as a matter of fact I think that TPM's dialogue was better, especially after watching TPM last night.

TPM was wooden in its dialogues. And corny is part of SW.

It was on par with the other films as far as dialogue goes.

You over value the OT dialogue.

I do?

I think it's okay, good for the genre it created for itself. I wouldn't call it literature, but it works well.

So did TPM's dialogue.

So you don't think ESB's "attack pattern delta. Go now" or "Target. Maximum firepower" sound cooler than TPM's "Where's the trigger. Oops wrong one, maybe this one. Oops."

Well, I think it does. Ok I admit that TPM's dialogue didn't really suck or anything, but some, if not all of the dialogue from ESB was really great. Every line is memoriable. I'll never get bored with it.

Anyway. Don't get me wrong. There's a lot of good dialogue in TPM too, but waaaaay less than the others.

I don't agree.

The next in line will almost always be better for the new Star Wars.

Just because Episode I set up the entire series doesn't mean it has to be a BAD movie! That's absurd! The plot sucks, there is little drama or character development (Jar Jar is about the only character that's developed, and what a horrid character THAT was!), and we never even get a proper introduction to Darth Sideous. After TPM, we STILL don't know where Palpatine learned about the Force. Maybe he read an "Idiot's guide to the Force" and suddenly was powerful enough to outwit the entire Jedi Council? That must be it. 🙄 Seriously, TPM raises more questions than it answers. It is not a good introduction to the Star Wars universe at all, in fact it is a very poor attempt at setting up ANH.

ANH introduced us to the entire concept of Star Wars, and it did that while being an awesome movie, proving that the "set up" episode doesn't have to suck. The death star battle is one of the best action sequences in any star wars movie, even though it is among the lowest tech of any. This just proves that technology does not make a great film, creative talent and inspiration do...the reason the Battle of Yavin is so great is because we CARE about the characters and the outcome of the battle. We want Luke to waste the death star. In TPM we didn't care about the characters because they were nothing but decorations for the special effects.

A great script with bad special effects merely calls on the audience to use their imagination. A bad script with unparalled effects doesn't leave any room for imagination, other than imagining how the movie could have been better. That's the problem with TPM, Lucas has become "more machine now than man, twisted and evil". I mean, LOOK at the guy, he makes sure that all the dolls and toys for a new star wars movie are out before the movie is even released! If that doesn't reveal how much Lucas has his priorities mixed up, then nothing will. The guy is nothing more than a corporate executive interested in milking the Star Wars OT for all it's worth. Lucas needs a nest egg and this new trilogy is it.

Seriously, anyone who thinks TPM is a GOOD movie is in denial. It might be fun to watch because of the OT references, but if it were released as the first Star Wars movie ever, then Lucas never would have been able to make even one sequel. TPM doesn't have what it takes to create a cult following. Think about it....you all know it's the truth. We are being played by Lucas just as the Jedi are being played by Darth Sideous. Lucas want's our money and no method of obtaining it is too low for Lucas. The guy even admits that he doesn't care if anyone likes his movies, all he cares about is if they make enough money for him.

Luckily AOTC's script was written by Hales, who seems to have more talent in his pinky than Lucas does in his entire head. Anyone can use a computer to make neato special effects, but a great story only comes from a true artist.

Lucas is not a true artist. He is a salesman first and foremost, and after that he's a good manager for getting special effects to work. But he couldn't write a good script if his life depended upon it. Keep in mind that ANH's script was actually ghostwritten by Kasden. Francis Ford Coppola saw the original script and talked Lucas into having someone else "fix" it (yeah it was that bad). If not for Coppola's influence, Star Wars would have sucked ass from day one and ESB would never have been made.

Your name is what that last post is.

That is ludicrously general. Saying that anyone who likes TPM is in denial is a VERY arrogant statement.

Your still getting hing up on this 'introduction to Darth Sidious' thing. It is NOT that important. You need to focus more on what the story is.

Personally, I found TPM to be very inspiring to the imagination; perhaps your closed mind has shut yourself off to that. It all centred around Qui-Gon to me- what I had always, always thought the Jedi Masters in their heyday would be like; kind, caring, compassionate, wise and damn lethal.

Many people have tried to make out before that GL is some money-obsessed maniac who has somehow 'lost the mission' over the last two decades; I think that it TOTAL rot and that he cares about Star Wars just as much as he ever did. So bloody what if the merchandising drive is so huge?

And GL has never, EVER said that he only cares about how much money his films make. That is complete crap. When he said that punlic reaction wasn;t that important to him, he meant that he was proud of them as his OWN creation, not in what others thought. This leads to the exact OPPOSITE conclusion to that you made. It shows how mmuch he cares about them as films, not as public relations exercises. Personally, I am glad he doesn't make his films just to suit the public because then they really WOULD be dreadful.

GL is NOT a salesman first and formost. He is a CREATOR first and formost. His flaw is in being unable to write dialogue and it is indeed welcome that he has got some help this time. But get youyr facts straight; Kasdan didn;t turn up until ESB.

I LIKE TPM, and so do many others, and we are not in 'denial'. We appreciate it for what it is. I am happy to point out its flaws- but they are far less numerous than those in ROTJ.

george lucas is not that bad.
he wants our money..true.
but he doesn´t obligate us to buy his stuff or watch his movies.
we give him our money coz we like his stuff.
he is an entertainer i believe. enterteiners create (like ush says) and want money for it (like bantha says). and he has the right to be it.
he made so much money with the first trilogy that he had the ability to go on his own ...create his companies and do what he felt like doing. he had the right to do so. now that he has time he makes more movies to COMPLETE his previous work, and his only concern and HE HAS SAID IT (bantha is right) is that this movies make enogh money.
if i were GL i would hope the same, nobody likes to throw money away. movies are also investements not only forms of art. they cost money and they´re supposed to make money. and if u want ur movie to make money one person that can give you great advices (if not the best person to do so) is George Lucas. and he has proven it.

well stated.....