Re: REVELATION: Darth Maul was Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas
Originally posted by woman_beater69
Let's forget about the expanded universe for a minute...
Focusing on the movies...In The Phantom Menace (the movie!) we know very little about Darth Maul. He's Sidious' apprentice. That's it. He is a mystery.
Now In Episode II we learn A jedi Master named Sifo Dyas ordered the clone army. Sifo Dyas died ten years before Attack Of the Clones so he died during the events of The Phantom Menace.
Now...
Skip to Episode III. As revealed in the REVENGE OF THE SITH novel (go to MF.com's forums for that), Palps tells Anakin that his old apprentice was Jedi Master Sifo Dyas, the one to order the Clone Army. Sifo Dyas died during The Phantom Menace. He died before Count Dooku joined up with Sidious. He died when Maul died.So...
Remembering what Yoda said about "Only two there are" doesn't it make sense that Darth Maul is a fallen Jedi?
Maul is Sifo-Dyas.
GOD your good very good
Re: REVELATION: Darth Maul was Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas
Originally posted by woman_beater69So...
Remembering what Yoda said about "Only two there are" doesn't it make sense that Darth Maul is a fallen Jedi?
Maul is Sifo-Dyas.
If this is the case, then why didn't Qui-Gon recognize him when they fought the first time?
starwars.com databank :::
"Once a Zabrak from Iridonia, Maul abandoned all trace of his former identity when he took on his Sith name . So complete was his devotion that he even endured the agony of having intricate Sith tattoos applied to his entire body."
Official site doesnt go against the idea of this topic 🙄
Originally posted by GangularisI agree...although it's not a HUGE revelation, (if true), it's still relevant. Personally, I have not read a single spoiler...I made the mistake of reading vital points of the script of Episode II and was too spoiled to the point where I didn't enjoy AOTC. I don't want to make that same mistake again.
next time you wanna NOT post a (possible) spoiler in the title of your topic..??this is stuff i would not want to know if it's true.
The only spoiler I'll settle for is, "Anakin turns bad". LOL.
BTW...
Originally posted by woman_beater69Based on that line? No...not really.
Remembering what Yoda said about "Only two there are" doesn't it make sense that Darth Maul is a fallen Jedi?
Uhh...I can't wait for Episode 3 to be over, so all these pointless threads will be gone. If your waiting for Episode 3 to explain about Sifo Dyas, your always going to be waiting, because it never explains in it. Thus, it is not an important revelation and Sifo Dyas is himself. Read up on your facts people.
I do agree about Qui Gon being part of the Sith plan. If u look at everything he did in Ep. 1, u see that if it wasnt for him, Anakin wouldnt have become what he is. If he hadnt told Obi Wan to train the boy, Yoda might have been able to, and all of this wouldnt have happened. He prolly also set up his death.
what about my idea? siffo dyas is yoda, ffs!!
see, yoda foresaw the Rise of the Sith (change to Revenge of the Sith so as to not be confused with T3:Rise of the Machines), so he had the cloners create the army, just in case... but he didnt want his name connected to it, so he invented the alias/anagram siffo dyas.
it will inspire telling dialogue, linking the prequels to the OT, such things as:
Dooku to Obi Wan: Yoda never told you about Siffo Dyas...
Obi Wan: He told me enough... he told me you killed Siffo Dyas!
Dooku: No... Yoda IS Sifo Dyas, for f-ck sake!
Obi Wan: Impossible!!
Dooku: Search your feelings... you know it to be true...
and later, when Obi Wan confronts Yoda...
Obi Wan: Master Yoda, are you Siffo Dyas?
Are you the father of the Clone Army?
Yoda sighs: The father of the Clone Army, I am...
but commission them I must... have... had to... do.. for f-ck sake!
then, when the Clone Troopers become Imperial Storm Troopers, Yoda runs and hides in shame and disgrace on Dagobah, rather than be hunted down and killed for being a Jedi Master, or executed by the few remaining Jedi, for betraying the Republic by commissioning such a weak ass army of clones...
siffo dyas: is yoda ffs!! it has to be! I tell ya! It has to be!!!
not just one night...
Lucas, SuperShadow and me spent the years from 1970 to 1975 smoking crack, dropping acid, and hammering out all the details for a 12, yes TWELVE, part movie saga, a series of 4 trilogies...
But, Lucas got too old and jaded by Hollyweird, so he will be unable to manage the other 6 flicks. Hopefully, Mickey Suttle and me can work something out with the little old fat man, to truly tell the definitive final chapters of the saga...
we'll see..
In The General Grieovus Comic When They Built Him As A Droid U Could See Sifo Dyas In Som Sort Of Canister...And Dooku Went In The Room And Said If Sifo Dyas Was Ready For His Blood Transfusion While Grievous Was Badly Wounded Before The Mechanical Body Search Around MF.com And Youll See It
The One That Said That Sifo Dyas Is Sifo Dyas Had Right
no, Siffo Dyas is Yoda, ffs!!
why would Lucas call him Siffo Dyas, if it's not an anagram for 'is yoda ffs'
it's so obvious!! Lucas is the anagram master!!!
here's an extended version of the scenes from ROTS:
Anakin and Obi Wan are talking to Yoda about Anakin's mother, and his birth
Obi Wan: Trust your feelings, Anakin... Let go of this nonsense of your birth and father... let the Force be your guide...
Anakin ignores Obi Wan, and questions Yoda
Anakin: I've heard others on the Jedi Council talking about 'a virgance' in the Force. That I AM the virgance.. I'm no virgance, Master Yoda... ask Padme!!! I mean... uhh... what can you tell me of my father, Master?
Yoda sighs: Your father, hmmm... a powerful Jedi was he... powerful Jedi...
Anakin: You knew my father? Can you tell me his name? Please Master, I must know!
Yoda: yesss... time it is for the truth you to know...
Siffo Dyas... Siffo Dyas is your father...
Anakin: Who is he? Where is he, Master?
Yoda talks to Anakin: A Dark Jedi named Dooku betrayed and murdered Siffo Dyas...
this sends Ani on a whirlwind adventure to the archives, to find his long lost daddy... but the Jedi purge is fast-approaching, and the Clone Troopers become storm troopers, storm the archives and destroy the data before Anakin can learn the truth...
so, Anakin is taken in by Palpatine, and Obi Wan is brought before Dooku...
Dooku to Obi Wan: Yoda never told you about Siffo Dyas...
Obi Wan: He told me enough... he told me you killed Siffo Dyas!
Dooku: No... Yoda IS Siffo Dyas, for f-ck sake!
Obi Wan: Impossible!!
Dooku: Search your feelings... you know it to be true...
and later, when Obi Wan confronts Yoda...
Obi Wan: Master Yoda, are you Siffo Dyas?
Are you the father of the Clone Army?
Yoda sighs: The father of the Clone Army, I am...
but commission them I must... have... had to... do.. for f-ck sake!
then later, when Anakin learns the truth, that Yoda is Siffo Dyas:
Anakin: But, Master Yoda, you told me that Dooku killed Siffo Dyas!
Yoda: Told you that, I did, yes... Dooku betrayed the Jedi Council and learned of the Clone Army being commissioned on Kamino, by my alter-ego, alias Siffo Dyas... to the Dark Side Dooku turned, so, to prevent Dooku from learning of my secret identity, I vowed to never again speak the name or use the identity of Siffo Dyas...
When that happened, Siffo Dyas ceased to exist...
Anakin: But.. you also told me that Siffo Dyas was my father...
Yoda: No, Anakin...
I AM YOUR FATHER!!!!
TA-DA!!!
the real reason Yoda runs and hides on Dagobah, beneath the fog and behind that shield of Dark Side magic: because he is the father of the Chosen One, the one who will bring balance to the Force! the ultimate bad-ass Sith Lord, Anakin 'Darth Vader' Skywalker!!! Hard to hold a post as Grand Master Jedi when a)all your pupils are slaughtered, and b) you are the father of the Dark Lord of the Sith!!!
it's a great grand ending to a great grand saga...
except, of course, it's not the end... it's only the end of the beginning!!
cool!!