REVELATION: Darth Maul was Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas

Originally posted by mossman
Labyrinth of Evil, written as a lead-in ROTS and with access to the ROTS script, begs to differ...
But, Dooku or Sidious, my point remains the same. 🙂

The Sith created the clone army.
They pinned it on the Jedi then hid the evidence.
And Sifo-Dyas was just another innocent casualty of war.

Nvm what the EU has to say! The films make it clear. Jango Fett, the template, was recruited BY Dooku. The army could not start construction until Fett was there. Therefore, Dooku must have done it and known all about it.

If you rearrange the letters of Sifo-Dyas, you get:
Yoda fiss.
?

There's only one big problem:
The Sith are always two a master and a pupil. in this time Count Dooku was a just a normal "lost jedi" or maybe he was still fighting for the Jedi at this time.

no offense. but why is the topic still around?

well i use to think that Qi Gon Jin was master sifa-dias, cause when obi wan was talkin to the cloning people they said that master sifa-dias made the order and obi won said he was dead he looked like he was remembering back to when they were fighting maul, and maul killed Qi Gon. he looked sad for a moment cause u know, Qi Gon was his master. and Qi Gon died when Maul did so... thats all i have to say

Lucas was asked this question at C3 and said that Sifo-Dyas was a dead jedi that Dooku impersonated to order the clones.

Plus I believe this is also in the DVD commentary of AOTC.

maybe Lucas was asked the question: George, is Dooku Sifo Dyas?

and he answered: It's so obvious who Siffo Dyas is, you can figure it all out for yourself, I left all the clues spelled out for you already... it's all right there for you!

so the reporter said: OK, so you're saying Sifo Dyas is Dooku... great!

so George says: oh, FFS!!! i said it's all spelled out for you!! now, move on!!

and the lore became legend that Siffo Dyas is Dooku, when what he really meant, in his cryptic Lucasian way, is...

siffo dyas: is yoda ffs!!!

SOUNDS LIKE BULL-SHlT

Originally posted by SlickRick69
maybe Lucas was asked the question: George, is Dooku Sifo Dyas?

and he answered: It's so obvious who Siffo Dyas is, you can figure it all out for yourself, I left all the clues spelled out for you already... it's all right there for you!

so the reporter said: OK, so you're saying Sifo Dyas is Dooku... great!

so George says: oh, FFS!!! i said it's all spelled out for you!! now, move on!!

and the lore became legend that Siffo Dyas is Dooku, when what he really meant, in his cryptic Lucasian way, is...

siffo dyas: is yoda ffs!!!

except theres one 'f' in sifo dyas..isnt there?

and sorry to bump this up....but here is clarification that maul is NOT sifo dyas😛

http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=303Y0RL1JSXFI25BO62HO77FP5

Hasn't anyone proved that Mon Mothma is Sifo-Dyas yet?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Hasn't anyone proved that Mon Mothma is Sifo-Dyas yet?

Nope, but here's what Pablo Hidalgo said on the matter in his Q&A:

Q: You said once that the character who ordered the clones was seen onscreen in Ep2. The new "Labyrinth of Evil" novel says that Sifo-Dyas himself ordered the clones. Do you ... um... still stand by your earlier statement? Or, has something changed since you spoke on the matter?
A: It WAS going to be Dooku, now it's Sifo, and that's that, since there won't be any mention in RotS! Well!

BUT...

IMHO, LoE does not say that Sifo-Dyas ordered the Clones.
It says, in a third person narrative explaining Dooku's POV, that Sidious told Dooku that Sifo-Dyas had ordered the Clones, which is something totally different, I'm sure you'll agree.

I still say Sidious himself was the actual impersonator who placed the order and Dooku was instructed to follow up that initial contact, probably continuing the Dyas subterfuge face-to-face, and providing the Clone template in the shape of Jango Fett...

i have always wondered who sifa-dyas was, i still dont know

and was general grevious once a jedi who got killed sort of and became a robot, dont flame me or critisize me for saying this but: i may have read wrong but i read that when obi wan is chasing GG they go into a cave and GG ends up saying that he is sifo-dyas, i cant remember where i found the script ill have a look for it now

Originally posted by LandoSpeeder2
Hm, they said Sifo-Dyas was on the council though. So that could not be possible

Yea I do not think that Darth and Sifo is the same person.Maybe the third movie will exclaim alittle about them.JM 🙂

I think Sifo-Dyas was indeed a real jedi, who was killed 10 years prior to Obi-Wan visiting Kamino.

What I'm trying to say is that the alien was struggling with the name of the person who ordered the clone army. He might have been struggling to say the name "Sideous" but in his mispronunciation Obi-wan assumed he said the name "Sifo-Dyas".

Imagine someone who speaks a foreign language trying to say a name and you here a few fragments and assume they mean "Tom" when in fact they mean to say "Tim". Then you say, "oh, do you mean Tom?" and they're like "yeah sure whatever, I don't understand the language very well".
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Taun We just happens to mispronounce "Sidious" as "Sifo-Dyas," which just happens to be the name of an actual Jedi who died 10 years ago? That's a bit of a stretch, if you ask me. And I believe he called him "Master Sifo-Dyas," and Sidious usually goes by Darth or Lord.

The right explanation is probably the most simple one. I think Sidious or Dooku posed as "Sifo-Dyas" when they ordered the Clone Army. If the Kaminoans had never seen that Jedi before, then how would they know he wasn't telling the truth? As long as whoever ordered the clones paid for them, I wouldn't think the Kaminoans would care.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Hasn't anyone proved that Mon Mothma is Sifo-Dyas yet?

Pffft, everyone knows Luke is really Sifo-Dyas...thanks to some crazy time travel...😛 😂

Umm...what is the point of this thread, really? And why is it still being debated?

Because it won't die in the hearts of fans who make things a hundred times more complicated than they need to be.

well i only saw this thread because someone brought it back up

why is this thread still open? sifo dyas=EU=LOE
maul dead
the man wo kill dyas is almost dead to, just wait a couple of days and see

Geez, is this still going??? The novel Labrynth Of Evil answers this question definitively (and is an excellent prequel to Revenge - and I usually don't like SW books) and even if you want to yell "EU,EU.." consider that Lucas worked closely with the author in order to have this book tie in directly to the movie (which it does) and is the closest to canon we are ever going to get on the subject. As a side note, the novel also explains the origin of General Grievous.

whos EU?