Originally posted by Afro Cheese
Yeah you have a valid point. I think the main point is that animals are stupid. That's why you can't have sex with them, they aren't smart enough to realize that it's dangerous and you can get diseases and such. I mean I'm not saying gay sex is "conventional," but ****ing animals is just disgusting.
Animals aren't smart enought to realize that its dangerous and you can get diseases...
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Originally posted by moviejunkie23I don't see your logic. If dogs are stupid we can't have them work for us, but if they were smart, we could? What's the difference?
yea what i was getting at too afro is if dogs and the such are really not smart enough to know what they are doing than woudn't it also be wrong to have animals doing tricks for us and working for us? If that logic applied it would be a form of slavery woudn't it?
Originally posted by moviejunkie23A dog sniffing out drugs and someone sticking their cock in one is not even in the same ball park ...hell it's not even the same sport..your analogy is completely flawed
"the fact the a dog has the IQ of a toddler (a smart one that is) verses a adult mind is the reason...we humans have more sense than a animal and should not abuse our power over them"------------so do you conclude that training a drug sniffing dog is a form of slavery?
Originally posted by BadKitty
A dog sniffing out drugs and someone sticking their cock in one is not even in the same ball park ...hell it's not even the same sport..your analogy is completely flawed
ok you be jules I'll be vincent vega our man from antradam!!!!
(if nobody caught the referance badkitty was ripping lines off of pulp fiction)
why is my analogy flawed??? you stated that dogs have the minds lesser than toddlers and to force control over them is wrong? You don't find bringing a bomb sniffing dog to a scene were there could be an explosion exploiting a dog were it could lose its life because people were controlling it "against its will"
Originally posted by moviejunkie23I can hardly believe you really think that...are you arguing for the arguments sake or are you being serious?
why is my analogy flawed??? you stated that dogs have the minds lesser than toddlers and to force control over them is wrong? You don't find bringing a bomb sniffing dog to a scene were there could be an explosion exploiting a dog were it could lose its life because people were controlling it "against its will"
thrust me it's flawed...I mean if they were physically abusing the animal while sniffing out bombs..okay I'd see your point,but their not..so I don't get it.
Originally posted by moviejunkie23You have a point and I ran out of answers so I'm just going to resort back to my "****ing animals is nasty" theory.
Animals also don't understand its dangerous to be a police dog and they have no possible way to give consent. They could be killed but they are controlled by humans to do it anyway.
so if you use that logic on beastiality don't you also have to use that with animals concerning other issues???
well my point is simple
You stated forcing dogs (who have limited intellect) to do things is wrong you were using that point to back up your thesis that beastiality is wrong
but in doing so you raised the question, if that is wrong for the reasons you stated then why is it not wrong to train canaries to go into a coal mine to find if there are poisons. It only raised a question thats all.
To be very honest though when you really get down to the brass of it and i take my thinking cap off i conclude the same thing afro does who said it best " "****ing animals is nasty" 😆
Originally posted by moviejunkie23yeah..you raised some good points...I think my brain just keeps saying no no no...hard to debate this topic,the voices in my head are drowning out logic.
well my point is simple
You stated forcing dogs (who have limited intellect) to do things is wrong you were using that point to back up your thesis that beastiality is wrong
but in doing so you raised the question, if that is wrong for the reasons you stated then why is it not wrong to train canaries to go into a coal mine to find if there are poisons. It only raised a question thats all.To be very honest though when you really get down to the brass of it and i take my thinking cap off i conclude the same thing afro does who said it best " "****ing animals is nasty" 😆
yea i know what you mean, maybe we can have more leniancy towards people that don't like homosexuality then with that in light, i think they are in probably the same boat as you are in, something in them just does not except it and they feel its wrong wrong wrong. As long as they don't do something stupid or violent maybe you can relate to them to some sort of degree
Originally posted by moviejunkie23see thats a tough one to..but with what you said in mind,I can kinda understand them now...if all they hear is wrong wrong they can never see the other side of the coin..but I really have it out for homophobes so I guess I'm on the flip side.
yea i know what you mean, maybe we can have more leniancy towards people that don't like homosexuality then with that in light, i think they are in probably the same boat as you are in, something in them just does not except it and they feel its wrong wrong wrong. As long as they don't do something stupid or violent maybe you can relate to them to some sort of degree
well just keep in mind that wrong wrong wrong you had in your head about beasiality and remember they are hearing the same thing about homosexuality. Now as soon as they do something harmfull or hatefull towards a homosexual member then they have crossed the line totaly.
But that wrong wrong wrong they hear in their heads is just as real as yours
Originally posted by moviejunkie23your 100% correct...but I'll still be to enflamed to remember that when the time comes...
well just keep in mind that wrong wrong wrong you had in your head about beasiality and remember they are hearing the same thing about homosexuality. Now as soon as they do something harmfull or hatefull towards a homosexual member then they have crossed the line totaly.
But that wrong wrong wrong they hear in their heads is just as real as yours