This is the first post I've done here, and I've read every bit of information here, as for who's making sense among users, you all sound nuts. THESE ARE MOVIES.
But hey, I'll give it a try anyway. I'm already nuts. As for either one not making sense, We are talking two very different views here. Star Wars is very straightforward, very precise in information. We are to percieve everything said by these characters as either deception or truth. The Matrix, however, has flaws of information, which eerily connects it to the world that we live in. History as we know it changes with new discoveries, making the world impossible to fully understand. Now, don't get me wrong, I love both series so much. I know so much about both universes. But the star wars universe as Lucas created it is done growing, and he's the only one I listen to, while the Wachowskis add new things to the world of the matrix. Both series are solid in their own perspective.
Next factor: time period. The Matrix, as I see it, has no time period. If 7 spans of a century (700 years) took place, then the 100 years that Morpheus explains doesn't explain anything. By matrix logic, we could be living in the same loop, oh, for argument's sake, maybe 900 years from then(that's a long time ago).
The Force vs. the One. Both powers are refined, and specialty in either field requires that the one wielding it can manipulate space and time. As we see in the Movies, Neo's powers are not restricted outside the matrix, but rather, the limits of his powers are expressed in both worlds. Anakin, of course, using the force, taps into his mind, so he is not restricted in either world either (assuming that he could jack into the matrix in some way).
So, It all comes down to who has more power. Here are my ratings, according to Ep3 Ani and Rel/Rev Neo: (Out 0f 10)
Ani Neo
Destruction 5 for temple 9 for metropolis
Wisdom 9 for force 3 for figuring out obvious
Speed 6 deflection 10 for bullet time, superfly
Strength 7 for dueling 9 burly brawl
Final score is Vader 27, Neo 31. A statistical look favors Neo. Sorry.
Originally posted by five
This is the first post I've done here, and I've read every bit of information here, as for who's making sense among users, you all sound nuts. THESE ARE MOVIES.
But hey, I'll give it a try anyway. I'm already nuts. As for either one not making sense, We are talking two very different views here. Star Wars is very straightforward, very precise in information. We are to percieve everything said by these characters as either deception or truth. The Matrix, however, has flaws of information, which eerily connects it to the world that we live in. History as we know it changes with new discoveries, making the world impossible to fully understand. Now, don't get me wrong, I love both series so much. I know so much about both universes. But the star wars universe as Lucas created it is done growing, and he's the only one I listen to, while the Wachowskis add new things to the world of the matrix. Both series are solid in their own perspective.
Next factor: time period. The Matrix, as I see it, has no time period. If 7 spans of a century (700 years) took place, then the 100 years that Morpheus explains doesn't explain anything. By matrix logic, we could be living in the same loop, oh, for argument's sake, maybe 900 years from then(that's a long time ago).
The Force vs. the One. Both powers are refined, and specialty in either field requires that the one wielding it can manipulate space and time. As we see in the Movies, Neo's powers are not restricted outside the matrix, but rather, the limits of his powers are expressed in both worlds. Anakin, of course, using the force, taps into his mind, so he is not restricted in either world either (assuming that he could jack into the matrix in some way).
So, It all comes down to who has more power. Here are my ratings, according to Ep3 Ani and Rel/Rev Neo: (Out 0f 10)
Ani Neo
Destruction 5 for temple 9 for metropolis
Wisdom 9 for force 3 for figuring out obvious
Speed 6 deflection 10 for bullet time, superfly
Strength 7 for dueling 9 burly brawl
Final score is Vader 27, Neo 31. A statistical look favors Neo. Sorry.
My suggestion? Three things:
- Don't use number systems that are made up and assigned by yourself. That never convinces anyone.
- Read the other posts beforehand. I went back and reread them before I replied to your post. You might see something there that contradicts your argument.
- Of course they're movies. This is a movie forum. We're bored. Work with us here.
Howabout this? Neo and all his matrix magic mumbojumbo against full powered un-suited kick ass Anakin Skywalker. They're in a room that can allow both the force and Neo's powers. And if you say 'that's not possible, that can never happen, bla bla' neither can Star Wars. Or just call up Keanu Reeves and Hayden Christenson and have them duke it out.
Originally posted by SS_181st_Snow
Well it ends the debating and gets on with the thread. This is like every other thread in the vs forum, it gets hijacked from it's point.
We saw Neo getting cut by a normal blade. We know that a lightsaber is able to cause FAR more destruction than a normal blade. Now Anakin will cut down Neo or anybody else in the Matrix within seconds since there is nothing that is able to stop his lightsaber.
So much for the "debating"...