Re: the holy bible is it changble ?
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
While watching the TV there was a subject on "modernizing the church"people say that the church is to in the past and that its out of touch with modern society.But because the church is based on a hundereds of years old book its obvious that as time changes the book will lose its touch BUT you cant change the bible (even though its been done) because your not alowed IT says so and if it was the word of god it wouldnt need changed.Anywhoo people say the bible should accept gay priests, the vatican says no because the bible forbids it so if the bible says NO how can people argue that because times changed the church should change the bible was not made up so it could change every couple of years to stay populer.So how then can people read the bible and think this is the word of God when its being changed ever so slightly now and no doubt was throught the dark ages ?
People might try to change it but since it has been written a long time ago(so they say)it should not be changed.If no one argees then fine but leave the bible alone.JM 🙂
Right and so somethings must be changed. But when they change the value of the thing change, or moral importance, never changes. Like complete abstinance of food during lent. Was changed because of all the hunger, unbalanced nutrition among teens, and and basically anything else that affected it was changed to only two meals. The age was changed as well. So the fact that we still fast is there, it just changes the appearence.
Think of it (dare I say it), like a science. You are only change the physical part of the matter, not the chemical part.
Yeah, which is why it changes. In the odinary times, after Christ acended into heaven, during the practices of lent, would undergo the same tournment Christ did. Imagine whipping yourself, out of pure love for Christ, with the same whips they whipped Christ with? Can you imagine the pain let alone sacrfise?
Christ acended into heaven, during the practices of lent, would undergo the same tournment Christ did. Imagine whipping yourself, out of pure love for Christ, with the same whips they whipped Christ with? Can you imagine the pain let alone sacrfise?if you were a true faithful thats exactly what you should do
IS THE BIBLE CHANGEABLE...
Here's an interesting page.
www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/darkbible2.htm
If you like Josephus....www.sullivan-county.com/news/paul/j_myth.htm#h2_2
THE HOLY BIBLE
Most people are unware of the proof contained in the Bible. Popular media tends to present general opinion, incorporating uninformed viewpoints. Realizing the incredible evidence of the Holy Bible requires more depth than popular opinion.
No work as survived and spread as the Gospel has. SOMETHING MAJOR HAPPENDED. There were no printing presses, no photocopiers, no quick ways to copy manuscripts. Nevertheless, the Gospel quickly expanded throughout the Roman Empire. Comprehending the scale of this vast explosion of hand-copied documents is only possible by comparing the number of extant New Testament manuscripts with those of other abundant documents.
Of historical works, PLINY THE YOUNGER has 7 original manuscripts, THUCYDIDES 8, HERODOTUS 8, GALLIC WARS 10, LLIAD 643 and the NEW TESTAMENT 24,970.
Having more surviving early manuscripts means having more cross-checks to verify accuracy. Today's Holy Bible is verified to a textual accuracy of 99.5 percent. Some biblical copies are old enough to show eyewitnesses' confirmation (made within 25 years of events). That's flash news in ancient times.
Earliest copies of other manuscripts don't even beign to compare. PLINY THE YOUNGER 750 years, THUCYDIDES 1,300 years, HERODOTUS 1,300 years, GALLIC WARS 1,000 years, and LLIAD 500 years. Why do some doubt biblical acccuracy, yet readily accept other, less reliable history?
Until this century, the earliest Old Testament copies were from about A.D. 1,000 (simular to typical historical works). Skeptics argued textual corruption was possible. Others argued miracles of prophecy, especially concering Jesus; were recorded centuries after Christ and were changed to fit the outcome of history.
Modern Archaeological discoveries soundly refute such claims. Thousands of much earlier documents now verify biblical accuracy.
Perhaps the most important Archaeological find in history is the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1947-48. Discovered accidently by a Bedouin shepard searching a cave in the Qumran region near the Dead Sea, the scrolls have been hidden by the Essenes (a Jewish sect similar to the Pharisees and Sadducees) just prior to the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 70. It took almost 20 years to uncover all the scrolls and bring them together in one location.
The discorvery includes thousands of fragments and some complete scolls found in 11 caves. In total, about 800 scrolls have been identified, which include copies of every book of the Old Testament (except Esther), along with a number of other scrolls relevant to history and to the Essene community. Several scrolls exist in multiple copies. Many of the oldest scrolls (including the remarkably intact scroll of Isaiah) were written more than 200 years before Christ (long before the fulfillment of prophecies they contain about the coming Messiah).
In addition to the Dead Sea Scrolls, some of the most important biblical writings, of the thousands available, are the following:
Rylans Papyrus (A.D. 115 - A.D. 125), Bodmer Papyri (A.D. 150 - A.D. 200), Chester Beatty Papyri (A.D. 100 - A.D. 300), Codex Vaticanus (Early 300s) Codex Sinaiticus (Early 300s), and The Vulgate (A.D. 400)
There is more to the Holy Bible then you think. It's imperative to search for the truth, and to divorce yourselves from popular opinion. A person's opinion has no relevance in the light of facts.