And people say Americans are violent..

well AC, glad you're back. maybe you can answer this 'a or b' question, so that i may know more about what you preach so adamantly.
ok, you see a kid being beat down my thugs. what do you do:

Originally posted by PVS
a-intervene in whatever way you can. either by jumping in, or shouting for help and drawing attention to the crime, and/or study the attackers so that you may give an identification to police when they show up because you hopefully called them...things of this nature

or

b-say "f*** em"

Originally posted by WindDancer
But to continue to pound Music, Movies, and Video Games leads to only one thing....and that is censorship. Which of course is the major tool of anyone that wants to dictate someone else.

People need to release that banning something is not gonna stop people from doing it - that goes for everything, including drugs.

What needs to be done is children need to be educated that its that kind of behaviour that is not right, not forbid it all together, because that will just lead to problems.

Violent video games are played all over the world, Canada, Europe, Japan, yet none of these have as high crime rate as USA does, so it must be something about your socialisation.

Banning something only makes it more popular with the youth.

i blame the parents and tv

people who get bought up wrong will most probably be weak minded and more influenced by tv and other people

Originally posted by PVS
well AC, glad you're back. maybe you can answer this 'a or b' question, so that i may know more about what you preach so adamantly.
ok, you see a kid being beat down my thugs. what do you do:

how many thugs?

cos if there is about 5...then what can i do?..be heroic? and then two ambulances will be needed...pointless..hopeless situation

if there are 2 thugs....id probably try and help

be more specific

is their a going trend to only read part of my post and still repond? in that post, i stated that this 'help' could simply include shouting for help, or witnessing the crime and calling police...in other words...ANYTHING

Originally posted by PVS
well AC, glad you're back. maybe you can answer this 'a or b' question, so that i may know more about what you preach so adamantly.
ok, you see a kid being beat down my thugs. what do you do:

Obviously, shouting out. Because is helping and can be done from a distance. If I have my cell phone, I'll call the police if it's a serious mugging. If it's some one/one street fight, let them sort it out.

The point I'm making is, I'm not putting my physical safety at risk to dive into a dangerous situation for someone I don't even know. I don't see why that's hard to grasp.

-AC

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
People need to release that banning something is not gonna stop people from doing it - that goes for everything, including drugs.

I think to regulate or maybe (just maybe) limit a certain amount is necessary. Yes, I agree there must be a limit or a line drawn. And banning something doesn't always equal end of the problem.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
What needs to be done is children need to be educated that its that kind of behaviour that is not right, not forbid it all together, because that will just lead to problems.

Indeed, the issue involves parenting. But unfortunally like The Inkeeper mention there is the single parent problem. In which the issue gets very complicated do to economical matters the single parent might face.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Violent video games are played all over the world, Canada, Europe, Japan, yet none of these have as high crime rate as USA does, so it must be something about your socialisation.

Yeah, that point was address in the video game violence thread. Adam Poe and I had a short discussion about the APA. As for the American social system is also a matter of very complicated issues. We have to remenber that America is composed of different ethnic groups and also different cultures get involved. This is also a very difficult social issue in the USA. Especially if we're dealing with crime in certain areas of the US.

well thats better than 'f*** em', which you gave the distinct impression of believing before.

and AC, i dont know you, so nothing is 'obvious'. you paint a picture of yourself through the words you say and thats all i have to go on.

I would intervene 😐

Police are useless, they ignore getting on the wrong side of large gangs where i live.

not only that, but in places where cops do their job,
there is a huge amount of time between when a crime happens and
the cops arrive (even if they arrive as quickly as humanly possible)
so you are not doing much for the victim in that sense.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I wonder if they've done similar survey on UK. I think I'll look into that.

United States HAS a high gun crime...its higher than anywhere in Europe.

True but when asked about how violent people thought american cities were (they were asked questions about 10 cities) they ALWAYS gravely overestimated the number of murders and gun crimes that had happened there.

Thats true here in Canada. The murder rate and the number of murders in Toronto is still and even lower then it was 15 years ago, but because of the media focusing on events more closely people think otherwise. Also, i think murder is down but murder by gun is way to popular and that is dangerous.
true, fire, i been to LA, yes its messed in my views but the people there were not scared really. Also many people think its los santos in GTA )gang wars, helciopter hijackings, douzen murders a day) 😆 in LA. It really isn't that bad but after LA i find Toronto a bit more peaceful then i used too. I found out what real crime is.

LA is an OK city but I like San Fransico better. Tho they don't beat New York

Maybe i came to LA during a crime wave it was the just after the LA riots. New york is like half great and quite and the other half is like what the hell is going on!!!!! San Fransisco is one of the best places i have been to in the US.

I've seen all of them before on people's phones, and it got me thinking:

they were all taken on people's phones, but did they only do it because they could record it, or has this been going on all the time.... just never got recorded?

Who's to say America isn't that bad... only there they are smart enough NOT to record it 😛

in my visits to the US the most violent places were...
1.LA
2.New york
3.Detroit
4. Chicago
5. A town i forgot the name of in Kansas, and the guy shot someone because he owned him 50 dollars. Messed up hillbillies and no one cared the guy was left dead for an hour. !!!!!!!!!!!! I say that specfic town is messed, the town right beside it was fun and nice.

How can u judge a cities crime rate when u have only visited it for a while?

I don't think anyone is doing that here Magee

New York? I live here and I gotta say, it's violent, but not THAT violent, not in the ENTIRE city anyway. certain places of course yes, but not even half of the city is that violent.