Revan Vs Sidious

Who would win and who do you think is the more powerfull sith lord. Don't forget that they both crushed the republic and that revan did it without remembering any knowledge of the dark side training he underwent.

Sidious, IMHO.
He converted the chosen one under the noses of all the Jedi, (including Anakin's own master) he can bs master yoda, he clouded the entire lightside of the force to the point where the lightside had to create a being just to kill him, and he deceives everyone in the republic, then turns it into his empire.

Revan would PWN PALPY!!!

Revan would crush him. The would be no competion.
Possible minor spoiler!

He corrupted hundreds of Jedi, killed tons of Mandalorians, and learned tons of the Sith on Malacor 5.

As much as I admire Revan and think he would crush any opponent, I hold true to my belief in the Prophecy and say that Sidious would win.

dunno about this one, but i probably go with revan.

Hey arthasknight where did you find the revan pic under you're name and could you hook me up?

even without the prophecy, I still say Sidious because I don't think Revan could take Yoda, but Sidious does.

Originally posted by Darth Destroyer
Hey arthasknight where did you find the revan pic under you're name and could you hook me up?

Um, I think I did an image search on google of 'Darth Revan' and I found it, resized it in photo shop or something and uploaded it. Lemme see what I can come up with...I'll get back to you.

Much appreciated arthasknight

Here it is Darth Destroyer.

Thanks i was trying to find a pic to put under my name if i find more in my search i'll be sure to send them to you.

Alright, Nerfarus, my prophecy spouting friend, I must refute you. It is my lot in life.

Corrupting the chosen one is a bit like sandblasting a soup cracker; it's not that hard.

Yoda isn't the brightest Jedi master in the prequels. Everything slips past him. I don't consider him getting BSed to be a great achievement, and certainly not enough to make or break a duel.

As for clouding the light side of the Force, Revan and Malak tromped around on Dantooine, the seat of the Jedi council, looking for relics of the past. No one even knew they were there until Revan came back himself. I think that is pretty damn good. It'd be like a burglar sneaking into your house and using your shower without you knowing.

There is -no- proof that the light side ever created Anakin, and especially no evidence to ever suggest he was created to defeat Palpatine himself and bring balance back to the force. Since Palpatine was merely resurrected anyways (according to EU) and it was Han that shot him in the back, creating his final death, the prophecy is moot. As for the prophecy, I ask these questions...

Who that was credible created this prophecy? Where was it in the sequels? How vague was it? Was it fulfilled? You sure?

Lastly, Sidious did not deceive everyone in the Republic. He made a good face for the Senate and fooled Jar-Jar. Any politician worth his daddy's wallet can do that.

I need convincing reasons. And I think Revan can take Yoda, I really do. I don't think any one dueller from the movies can compare with the lightsaber duellists of old. That is something everyone can admit.

Another smart man the old duelists are far superior to any of those in the movies.

Originally posted by Darth_Janus
Alright, Nerfarus, my prophecy spouting friend, I must refute you. It is my lot in life.

Corrupting the chosen one is a bit like sandblasting a soup cracker; it's not that hard.

Yoda isn't the brightest Jedi master in the prequels. Everything slips past him. I don't consider him getting BSed to be a great achievement, and certainly not enough to make or break a duel.

As for clouding the light side of the Force, Revan and Malak tromped around on Dantooine, the seat of the Jedi council, looking for relics of the past. No one even knew they were there until Revan came back himself. I think that is pretty damn good. It'd be like a burglar sneaking into your house and using your shower without you knowing.

There is -no- proof that the light side ever created Anakin, and especially no evidence to ever suggest he was created to defeat Palpatine himself and bring balance back to the force. Since Palpatine was merely resurrected anyways (according to EU) and it was Han that shot him in the back, creating his final death, the prophecy is moot. As for the prophecy, I ask these questions...

Who that was credible created this prophecy? Where was it in the sequels? How vague was it? Was it fulfilled? You sure?

Lastly, Sidious did not deceive everyone in the Republic. He made a good face for the Senate and fooled Jar-Jar. Any politician worth his daddy's wallet can do that.

I need convincing reasons. And I think Revan can take Yoda, I really do. I don't think any one dueller from the movies can compare with the lightsaber duellists of old. That is something everyone can admit.

Yoda was the greatest light side Jedi there ever was and Sidious bested him (as far as we know) with little effort. That speaks of power itself.

Yes Revan and Malak clouded the Force, but so did Sidious. It's like saying one baseball team won a game. Well, so did another one. So what? Sidious and Maul were undetected until they revealed themselves too just like Revan and Malak. I don't think this point has any strength in it.

Balance to the Force=death of the Sith
Anakin's purpose=kill Sith
Balance to the Force=Anakin's purpose

There is no answer to that question because it's never revealed. The Jedi Order came up with the Prophecy I suppose. It wasn't in the OT because there weren't any Jedi Masters left who knew of it save Yoda and Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan didn't want Luke to know his father's identity so he can't very well tell Luke "Hey, your father was a Jedi who was meant to kill the Sith but he was s spaz and killed us instead." And Yoda didn't mention it because he wanted Luke to think he could beat Sidious. If he goes spouting off about the Prophecy and how Anakin's supposed to end it all, what's that say about his confidence in Luke? And again, the whole father's identity thing.

Sidious tricked the Senate, which means he might as well have fooled the entire Republic because the ones in the Senate are the voices of all the planets they represent. You fool the senator, you fool the voice, you corrupt information sent back to the planet by the voice, you fool the planet.

Sorry if this was meant only for Nefarus, but I had some stuff I wanted to say.

Anakin killed two Sith. He was born for all that?

His purpose was to destroy the Sith. He did that, and so his destiny was fulfilled and he died. That's what the Force intended for him.

Darth Sidious has one of the hardest fights ever.......but still whips that @$$....Sidious wins babay. 💃

revan would defiantly win, no question about it.
he was the oldskool sith and they were better by a mile. sidious wouldnt even touch him.
Reavn ownz sidious while watchin his favourite TV show.
also bout sidious corrupting anakin=bullshit, anakin was whining all the time, he fell in love with padme, he was arrogant, and he killed all shose sand ppl(full of hate) so palpatine had very lil to do with that.
and there is no way yoda was the most powerful jedi.

I agree. Yoda was never called the most powerful Jedi. He headed the council, but I would hope that after 800 years, he would. All his competition would be dead, hell. But anyways, Yoda was a good duellist, I suppose. Be he could not defeat Dooku fast enough. He didn not exhibit enough to convince me he was the best light side Jedi ever. Certainly, ancient Jedi who fought against Exar Kun, Nomi and them, must have exerted amazing ability with the saber and the Force. And I believe one of them could best Yoda. Exar would destroy the muppety Jedi master.