Daredevil versus You

Started by jinzin11 pages

this is retarded.....you're a normal person with no superpowers or weapons this equals you losing. You train for at least an hour a day....try 3 to 6 that's what I've been doing.....still there is no way I'm even putting up a 5 minute bout with bats or dd unless 4.59 of those minutes is me running away or hiding. Unless you can go and fight say like a freaking Rhinoserous and win,,,,,,,then I'll concede that MAYBE you'll stand a chance otherwise stop this nonsense. We don't fit in th dc or mu and there's no one alive that currently does. You have the gaul to compare yourself to bruce lee? WTF,,,,,the guy lived for his art. How can you even compare your speed to his? did you know he had to slow down the film for ome of his fights he was moving so fast? Even tony jaa practices 8 hours a day, but there's no way he's beating bats. And him or dd having their muscles flexed during a punch is for the dynamics that the artist put into it....it has nothing to do with the tensness of their muscles unless they say/or think so in a bubble. Other than that it's just art meant to be interesting.
Aside from that.......your style means diddly,,,,,,watch ultimate fighting,,,,these guys like us originated from one or even several styles or arts or other fighting sports even when they are hella experienced,,,,they don't have friggin epic battles that you see in comic books! stop comparing yourself to bruce, and stop implying that you can take batman or daredevil cause you can't.....THIS IS STUPID!

Daredevil= I lose miserably.
Ben Affleck=dies.

lol if we're talking the movie guys than yeah we'd systematically mop the floor with them...except for bale...he might be tough.

But keaton's like 50? clooney? HA and VAl Kilmer..well he's just a pretty boy....affleck dies.

Originally posted by Scoobless
hey K3VIL, are you allowed to carry collapsible batons in Italy?

http://www.jksports.it/Cataloghi/Armi&Accessori/Photo/Art_Immagini/art533.jpg

they are illegal here in the UK


Infact, we aren't.I was carrying it cause my master possess a shop that sell equipment for various sports, mainly for martial arts, and he give that new baton to me and ask me to try it while I train alone at home.I've just forgotten it in my jacket.Lucky for me.
jplatinum in real world Batman is the top condition a man can reach, on the other hand he's not unbeatable, but you gotta consider the situation from a real point of view, and you gotta consider that he mop the floor with 4 white martians that were powerless but physically strong even without powers.
Underrating an enemy you know is worthy is almost always an error.
I can perform a flurry of punches with a combo of Jab-Cross or Jab-Cross-Hook in a few seconds, I'm slightly under your speed in performing punches(0.31), but you gotta consider that boxing wouldn't help you against someone that fight not only with fists but also with kicks.
If you fight against a boxer for example, forcing him into submission, obviously IF you're trained into submission fighting would grant you the upper hand, same for fighting him into a trapping fight distance, techniques like pak sao, that are simply force a boxer into a close combat situation he's not trained to face, at that distance you can use techniques to broke his arms or block him while he's just managing a way to exit and achieve the distance to boxe against you.
I can block hits from practically everyone of the apprentice of my master, even those that are black grade like me, but older, and have reached it before me and in more time, still have difficults into fighting me, the master is the only one that give me hella time, even if I've got my own personal fighting style, he has teached me everything I know, so he's the one that can prevent my attacks and hit me with ease.
There's always someone that can match your abilities.

Darkcrawler,
I never tried to disrepect Bruce Lee so don't you try to make people think I did. I said I'm around his speed, cause I am and the speed I posted was a modest one cause I'm slightly faster than that.
I know he used to slow his punches for the camera, Jet Li does the same thing. I studed enough and been a fan enough to know how fast they are. You sound like a newbie, man sya stuff like that.
Anyway, I am very fast and train everyday.
The 1 hour I posted was how long I train in fighting. I train in physically building my body longer than this,(2-3 hours everyday) cause I run laps, sprints, back peddles, do 500-1000 pushups, do 100-200 crunches ,knuckle pushups for my hand conditioning, I take the chair in my room and use it to do 100 dips with just my arm strength alone, I go to the weight gym 3-4 days a week and I play sports(basketball) 3-5 days a week too to keep in top condition. I'm no slouch. I'm very very good at what I do, man.
You down everyone who has confidence to say that they can beat a human, cause thats all batman and daredevil are humans, not superhuman, like you make them out to be. Well, the aren't.
Anyhuman that is not superhuman can be knocked out by a faster than normal powerful fist to the head, man.
How is that retarded? You just like to put people down.

Anyway, I just want to make my point, if you want to we can call a truce.
What do you say?

Btw. Kevil, I get what you're saying, I just wanted to get my point across that a non-superhuman like Batman/Daredevil can still bleed still be hurt still be knocked out still make a mistake when fighting a well tarined person. If they were superhuman I wouldn't have made this thread, its not retarded or illogical, it make sense. Now doesn't it. Tell me what you think Kevil.

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Jinzin, Stop hating, man.
It doesn't become you.

Btw. Fight a rhino? You sound crazy.
Who can beat a rhino, no one, thats who.
Probably mas oyama but he is dead now.

Originally posted by jplatinum
Batman/Daredevil are normal people.
They are in top condition, so what.
I'm in top condition.
They can still get whooped.
How is that retared?
They are comic book normal people though. They survive things that would murder *real* normal people. That's what sets them apart.

Swanky-tuna,
that makes no sense what so ever.
That is your argument, man.
I know you've argued with me with better logic than that in the past.
You must be slippin, man.

I've seen streets thugs hit Batman and knock slobber out his mouth for petes' sake, man.
So he can be hit.
If he can be hit by slow punches like that, then one of my very very fast very hard punches to the throat or head or stomach does way more than that to him.
You're not making a good point here, man.
I know you can do better than that.

I'm serious. Comic martial artists have dodged bullets after they've left the chamber. Crap like that.

And obviously if one well trained guy could take Batman or DD, they wouldn't be in business too long. They have to be better than that for whatever reason to be doing what they do for so long. They have to surpass the normal limits of man to be where they are.

Edit: Stop editing while I'm replying and watching comedy shows!

Batman and Dare Devil are in peak human condition in every physical aspect (hint: this means there is no room for improvement). They are at the same time faster, stronger, more agile and more durable then the best the real world could offer in any individual category. On top of that they have ridiculs martial arts training (Batman is at least a black belt in 127 martial arts). Compared to either of these guys we are the random thug with martial art training that steps up after his buddies gets mowed down... only to have the same thing happen. Dare Devil could beat every single member of this board at the same time and since he has beaten hundreds of Hand Ninjas at once with out getting hit it would be a cake walk for him.

Just so we get the idea of the parameters of a peak comic human, Ogun is able to kill a water buffalo with a casual slap... man this threat is stupid.

ST,
I get what you're saying man, but think of it like this,
If one well- trained guy can beat them they wouldn't be in business too long, then they have to draw them and write them with a plot that makes them win somehow. What I'm saying is if they were "real life" people then they have no writers to make them win reguardless of who they fight.
Therefore, they have to put up or get knocked out.
I never said they couldn't beat e cause that would be alie. I know what they can do and have done, but they can still lose to a "real Person"
with my level of condition and training or greater. Bruce Lee was a "REAL PERSON" and he could decimate them probably at the same time in "REAL LIFE". Mas oyama's punch would crush Batman's skull.
The old Mike Tyson would knock either one of them out in less than 2 minutes cause he was quick, powerful, skilled, and could take beatings better than most top boxers. Ali could have tken them, Jet Li can decimate them, the old roy jones was faster than batman in hand speed and just as powerful, So my logic makes sense.
I know what you mean so I'm not downing you, I'm just trying to let you see what I'm talking about, man.
Thats all.

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Killing a water buffalo with a slap is not peak human, its way greater than that.
That sounds like low level superhuman or a meta human to me.

What if I hold one arm, jinzin can get another arm.
We both kick his legs really hard til so he can't use them, while Kevil punches him in the stomach and we throw him on the ground, then we all work him over til he passes out.

Btw. srank, being trained in every 127 martial-arts doesn't mean that you will automatically beat someone, it just means you know alot of different approches to fighting them. You can't use all 127 styles at one time, man.
I've fought people who know many different styles, but they could only switch from style to style periodically. To use them all at the same time is not logical, its is not possible. You sound crazy.

Translating them to "real life" still leaves them with above human abilities like mastering a million martial arts.

Originally posted by who?-kid
(The machotalk you read on these forums...)

Thank God all these ex-ninjas and street fighters take a break from wrestling bears and infiltrating in former Russia to teach us, normal KMC members and not trained assassins like some other KMC-members, a thing or two about Close Quarter Combat.

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Well anyway,
I'm glad everyone responded.
Everyone has his/her opinion.

We all cool, anyway.

Bats has fought Ra's Ghul who has trained for an millenium and won.

I guess you could to the same because Ra's Ghul "is just an normal human besides his age."

Seeing the way he fights.
Yes I could beat him.
You could spend a miliion years training and it doesn't mean squat if someone else only spent 10 years training if they trained harder than you and trained better than you and trained faster and more powerfully than you.
Your point is?
There is no point.
You just wanted to throw random trivia into the arguement, but I like that.
You think on your toes Darkcrawler.

Ra's Ghul has trained harder then you are, is more skilled then you are, and is more faster and stronger then you are. I guess you could go toe to toe with Shiva, too.


It almost goes without saying. Lady Shiva is the best martial artist on the planet. Not only is she the best on the planet, she may be the best that anyone has ever heard of - anywhere. This is not nearly enough to explain exactly how good Shiva has become. Most people approach the martial arts as a form of defense or fighting or even something so mundane as exercise. To Shiva this truly is an art. It is an art she has dedicated herself to mind, soul and body. She has been practicing and perfecting this art for over two decades now and it shows in every motion she makes, her body moving with a grace and fluidity which has become unconscious.

Thousands of different punches and kicks and moves all combine in her head to create an almost infinite number of ways to take down an opponent. Not only will she choose the most effective way to fight an opponent but the most aesthetically pleasing, the most stylish and artistic way to win. Every blow is placed precisely for an intended effect, followed by another and another, making a composition beautiful to behold.

There are few people who Shiva even considers to be within the realm of her ability right now (Batgirl, Batman, The Question and Connor Hawke), though there are some who could be trained into it (Robin, Cheshire, Black Canary). This is not to say that she is unbeatable, she's not, but in pure martial arts there is no one better.

Originally posted by who?-kid
(The machotalk you read on these forums...)

Thank God all these ex-ninjas and street fighters take a break from wrestling bears and infiltrating in former Russia to teach us, normal KMC members and not trained assassins like some other KMC-members, a thing or two about Close Quarter Combat.
Ohh, the sarcasm detector is going on short circuit.
Thank god there are guys like you who?-kid, who probably don't even now how to perform a decent stomp kick on a 80 years old man that weights 600lbs and is sitting on an armchair.
Me, or platinum don't even need to be believable to someone that uses sarcasm cause obviously do not know what are we talking about.Maybe the only time you've hitted someone was a lil girl at the 1st year of school stealing her lunch.