What you wish to achieve after an action is preformed. I am questioning you with these simple counters to prove a point:yeah talk about not getting it, Basic line I do it because I see what joy it brings them, and to me that is reason enough that was the simple answer to your so called simple counters end in view. If you dont get it by the the reply I wrote earlier I cant help you any further. Call it greater good call it what you want, but the basic line is that as long as it brings them joy and lighten up their day a bit it is worth it.
Originally posted by finti
???? I can grasp the fullness of my action above that of any christian, I do it for them and not because I think it will by me a ticket to heaven like the selfish christian would.
Can you see the cosmic proportion of your actions? Do you ever look outside the directly affected and see how this might affect someone, umm I don't know, across the world? Believe it or not, everything and anything you do, affects each and everyone of us. EVERYTHING. You want to prove it, give me any type of scenario.
Originally posted by b-ball_chick
In the Bible it states that we will be judged by the law. So even those that dont know the law and follow it will be judged by it either way. But to go to heaven you need Jesus. So... It's kinda hard to underastand. Even the didciples didnt nderstand at first.
The Bible says that as we judge others so also we will be judged..
Honestly, do you really think that Jesus will send someone to hell that has never heard his name??? For eternity.
Originally posted by debbiejo
The Bible says that as we judge others so also we will be judged..Honestly, do you really think that Jesus will send someone to hell that has never heard his name??? For eternity.
The Bible says that when Jesus returns every knee shall bow and proclaim him Lord and Savior, which means to me that everybody will have heard the gospel before the return of Jesus.
Originally posted by finti
why? simply because these are people I have known since I was a little kid. They are part of me growing up, they didnt have to do thing for me. Its not like scratch my back and I`ll scratch yours. I dont need a reason to be nice to people, the reason why I do this things is because its just the way I am. I was brought up to take a concern for our fellow human beings, what good are they in such years of old? Does it matter what age they have are they less of a human and less worth just because they are old. These old people are the ones that build my country to what it is today, because of them I live in a free society, the least we can do is show some bit of gratitude, not just store them away in a home for elderly.Basic line I do it because I see what joy it brings them, and to me that is reason enough
Finti,
Some people would say that you do these things to go to heaven. The Bible says that no one goes to the Father (God) but through accepting Jesus. Does this mean that you are condemned? No definitely not. God's mercy is great. The Bible, in the book of Acts it tells of a Roman army leader called Cornelius. It says that God saw that he was a good man who did many good deeds and he found mercy in God's eyes. But he was not a believer in Christ. So God showed Peter, a disciple, in a dream to visit Cornelius's house to bring him the gospel so that he and his family could be saved. God also told Cornelius in a dream to send a messenger to find Peter and bring him to Cornelius's house.
Originally posted by b-ball_chick
May God deliver you.
I don't think finti wants or needs you your sympathy. In fact, I think this thread is about people who do good things JUST to go to heaven. If finti points out...in hundreds of threads....that he does not believe in god....then why does that mean that he doesn't care about other people?
Considering the overwhelming number of his posts that dispute a belief in a god, then his motivation to do things for others must be...well, selfless. Unlike most christians I know that have an end result in mind, finti seems to be doing these things out of genuine concern and compassion for those he cares about.