iceman versus flash: deathmatch

Started by GalacticStorm3 pages

Iceman doesnt just freeze people by that i mean encase them in a block of ice. He can freeze them down to a molecular level. Similar to what happens with liquid nitrogen. If he does that to flash then the flash is done for.

yeh but flash has learned to keep his molecules in a contant state of vibration anyway thats why he is able to travel thru time accurately, and not get lost so the friction that wouuld be created from that vibration would counteract the molecule freezing

plus he has an endless supply of energy so he doesn't ahev to worry about tiring out

Originally posted by manjaro
actually that was when he used it and he explained that it he increased his mass to infintity,flash facts he called them, mind you he didnt give it an official name as to say i, wally west, have an attack called "infinty mass punch", but its just for the sake of comic fans ppl just say hmm, he punched somebody while he increased his mass to infinty so that must mean its an IMP.its the equivalent to when ppl say TOAA instead of the one above all, its not officially in any MArvel publications but it is widley accpeted in comicdom.... plus you gotta realize that Zum is a martian and thier invulnerablity is on par with superman's so it isnt unbeliveable that he would survive an attack like that

From what I have seen, he didn't say that he was increasing his mass to infinity. Even if he said so, Flash isn't the brightest bulb. It was likely hyperbole.

Not even Superman would survive an object with infinite mass traveling at lightspeed.

Force = mass x acceleration.

Therefore, if mass = infinity, Force = infinity

The force it would exert would be infinite; infinitely more forceful than any attack Superman had ever experienced. If Flash really had "infinite mass" and was moving at lightspeed, he would have killed Zum upon impact. Zum would have been reduced to subatomic particles by such a punch, and so would Superman.

Mass is constant, it does not increase. However, inertial mass increases as one approaches lightspeed. Perhaps his inertial mass increased, adding power fo his punch, but it is impossible to increase mass.

"Infinite mass" is purely hyperbole.

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no theres no real difference between inertial mass and normal mass, because movement is reletive. if indeed flash was travelling at lightspeed or higher his force wuold be infinite in his punch, meaning that he would punch things out of existnace or out of the tie line, he wud infact be so strong that the energy in that punch would not feal the dimension of time at all and could virtually destroey any matter or warp space, but thas just complete bullshit, flash is not that powerful,

Didn't really understand what you meant, but there is a definite difference between inertial mass and mass.

Mass is constant, inertial mass isn't.
Mass has gravitational pull, inertial mass doesn't.

Both resist acceleration, and both apply force, but that doesn't mean they are the same.

I agree. If Flash can do all the things people claim he can, he is unquestionably the most powerful non-divine person in the DCU.

Yeah flash can do all those things they say he can do. His speed force aura allows him to break the laws of physics. IceMan is almost his antithesis. While can give speed to molecules Iceman can take it away. I agree with almost everything, I've read here. Except throwing Iceman into the speed force. 1. I've only seen it done to other speedsters. 2. I think it would be kind of dangerous to put your enemy in the speed force. I know of at least two speedsters that have escaped and sought revenge. 3. Besides the speed force dimension is still a place that can be frozen to absolute zero (all molecules stopped) what would happen to Flash's power then.

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well this is a deathmatch right? and flash cant physically do something to Iceman, and Iceman cant do nothing to Flash....sort of....Flash doesnt know about Icemans mouisture inversion, and in the time it takes him to figure it out iceman will have entered his body through his nostrils, or mouth and then expands into his iceform making himself a hulking ice sculpture making Flash explode(nice twist on my opinion of flash exploding people...lol)

This all depends on which Flash it is. Flash Prime would kick anyones ass. Wally the God Boy is his servant. He would warpspeed slap LT, much less Iceman.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
This all depends on which Flash it is. Flash Prime would kick anyones ass. Wally the God Boy is his servant. He would warpspeed slap LT, much less Iceman.

i heard it is much similar to the sword of heaven superman uses but Omniscent in nature.

did you see what happend to Spectre man shit that was amazing

Lol, Spectre got his ass handed to him while the Presence was powering him! Talk about an embarassment.

I would think since it just says flash that its wally west, the Flash....and if it is then Iceman would win in my opinion, but it could go either way....

no Wally West is flash prime.

I am referring to flash from the current comic book, the one that belongs to JLA and the JLE-what's left of them. But I am curious to know where have you been reading about flash prime, I don't know anything about his power level and what of superman's sword of heaven? Is this a new kingdom come? I haven't even read the first one.

flash might have infinite energy to fight off of but if iceman can sends things to absolute zero which is the absence of energy i say iceman

wally has been flash since '95 so its a given that when you say flash you're talking about him. as to sending iceman in the speed force i was thinking more or less that flash would speed him up first, but then again i remember that the more speed he gives the more it cuts into his own supply,

but also then again not only is the speed force infinte, it was shown in JLA#25(crisis times five) the speed force wall is the base for the 5th dimension, the barrier in between 3rd and 5th if you will, so it isnt a place where iceman could "freeze" if sent there as it is another dimension altogether, it wasnt expounded upon so i WONT assume that the speed force is the 4th dimension. but, i think it is a possiblity, albiet a remote one that flash could send him there and leave him lost in time. the only drawback tho is that iceman could F around and master the speed force and come back to haunt him.

and on another note superman prime's sword is name the sword of truth