Silver Surfer & Thor vs JLA

Flash outruns Death.. and the very concept of death.
A race across time... past the end of the universe, and up the strands of creation.
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The shield doesn't stop him from being touched. it slows down the inertai of objects approaching him. something with sufficiant force, like hulks fist, is still gonna connect.

Thors hammer flying at the speed of light >>>>>>hulks punch at least in terms of inertia 😐

or at least it SHOULD, but with the hulk anythings possible

Originally posted by kgkg
false.....

Thats not what it shows in comics. If its always on then how could shatterstar or spidey or wolverine touch him. Plenty of reg str characters have laid hands on him.

Originally posted by Validus
The proof is in the pudding. Wally's speed feats are unsurpassed by any.

Originally posted by kgkg
false.....

There is no one in comics save the Runner who can match the speed feats of wally west. he thinks superfast. fight's superfast, reacts superfast. he can move at infinity if he wants to. if the surfer was so fast, how come it takes him so long to find galactus food? galactus was always near death by the time the surfer found him food. what? someone so fast could go out and come right back and say master, I found dinner.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
With Flashs speed already given by the SF, what does reciting the speed formula do for him?

😐 ???????????

Originally posted by Validus
True unless you're looking through silver coated glasses. I've seen Surfer's speed and Wally surpasses him, period. So does Zoom.

keep making claims ...... 🙄

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thats not what it shows in comics. If its always on then how could shatterstar or spidey or wolverine touch him. Plenty of reg str characters have laid hands on him.

It hasn't been shown that he turns the shield off. So to this end. we are stalemated. Onslaught broke his shield and his skin, and his suit. Thor couldn't. I'm betting he can break WW's shield either. her's is stronger than juggs.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Wrong.

There is no one in comics save the Runner who can match the speed feats of wally west. he thinks superfast. fight's superfast, reacts superfast. he can move at infinity if he wants to. if the surfer was so fast, how come it takes him so long to find galactus food? galactus was always near death by the time the surfer found him food. what? someone so fast could go out and come right back and say master, I found dinner.

Originally posted by kgkg
Again u make claims with nothing to back them up........ go across time , unverse...... etc etc....... all feats SS does with no problem.......

keep making claims ...... 🙄

Originally posted by Blair Wind
😐 ???????????

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont 'have a scanner to do all the things u do. I wish draco where on. Diana used the earth to replenish her when decay, a titan's child, was withering her away. she literlly had a super healing factor. she asked the gods for power, and they gave her the god wave. she asked the god pan to give her power to defeat the joker's crazy spell. and he did. and if she is as strong as superman and has the speed of mercury, and thousands of years of battle training, then why doesn't she have the power to solo thor. Herculese in Marvel does. and she is every bit as strong and tuff and as good a fighter. with more speed and flight, and better weapons. tell me why she doesn't have the power to solo thor?

So thats supposed to prove that sWW can have any power she wants? sorry, but no good.

Superman has soloed WW many of time, and when he needed to he ended it quickly 😉

Thor also has thousands of years of battle experience, so thats point is moot.

🤨 When has Hercules had the power to solo Thor? You have any Proof that even puts Herc on Thor's lv?

When did her weapons become better than Thors? your gonna need a lot of proof to back this claim 🙄

Originally posted by Validus
Time control has nothing to do Norrin's speed and you know it.

If i can go back to any time, any dimension......... what does speed matter.

as shown by Zoom control of time steam helps even tho ...... Zoom has no Super Speed....... only acces one stream he was matching amped flash

Originally posted by Skeets
Like Kg Said.Surfer Starts much Faster than the Flash.Flash could potentially be faster but it would take some time to accelerate.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It hasn't been shown that he turns the shield off. So to this end. we are stalemated. Onslaught broke his shield and his skin, and his suit. Thor couldn't. I'm betting he can break WW's shield either. her's is stronger than juggs.

You Still have no proof, while I have proof that says that Cain needs to mentally summon his shield for it to be of use.

So her shield isn't stronger 😉

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It sure hasnt been shown that he keeps it on either. Im not saying that Thor can break WW's . We really have no way of knowing whos is stronger. Even if he did have it on when Onslaught attacked him it may not have broken the shield. The leftover energy may have thrown him that far and rendered him unconsious which would explain the shield being down
(if it was on in the first place). Its all speculation however as we have no proof of either. I think we are stalemated all around as to the ?'s on thier shield str.

Originally posted by Validus
He doesn't need to accelerate. He just needs to open the door.

Originally posted by kgkg
if you control time....... you pretty much control speed..........