Star Wars Prequels??!!!

personally, I like the PT better. now i'll admit, i like it cause well, its more exciting. i love jedi, and i love lightsaber duels, so im kinda a sucker for the PT. however, u have to realise that lucas is trying to make these not separate stories, its supposed to be one story, an epic story...and that it most definitely is. i think one of the greatest moments in ROTS will be right at the end...'A New Hope' when we see Obi-wan walking with luke in the sand, alone, the last hope of the galaxy. thats what the PT is about, not about anakin, not about obi wan or yoda or sidious, its to show the peace that was, and the peace that was lost. that even after all that happens in the PT there is still hope. that scene will touch the fans of the OT, and in that i think lucas hit the nail on the head.

OT: Han fits perfectly, because he's suave, humorous, and a bad ass on so many levels. and he doesn't need the force.

as for PT: seeing hella Jedi rushing into a battle is the SHEEEEEEEEEEEIZNNNNNNNNNNNIZZZLE I don't care if you hated AOTC, seeing all those Jedi rush into a melee like that was awesome.

Originally posted by macgeek2005
Well said. And that comes down to another point that i've been on in the past few days.

Han Solo doesn't fit. He just doesn't fit. You have Yoda, who was there all along, you have Ben (Obi-Wan) who was there all along. You have Luke and Leia the twins of the Queen of naboo, and Darth Vader. You've got the droids, R2-D2 Upgraded by Darth Vader, and C-3PO, built by Darth Vader.

Han Solo is an empty being, and I find it very annoying that he's a main character. It's like WHAT THE ****? WHO ARE YOU? What are you doing here? What do you have to do with anything that's been going on in the last 6 hours of movies.

And he goes around doing his business, as though hes a main character (which he is unfortunetaly) but he has nothing behind him. I HATE HIM.

CHOP OFF THOSE TYPING FINGERS
HAN (and chewie)RULES!
As a 70s SW kid the SW experiance wouldnt have been the same without SOLO.
Guess its that old prequels first thing again.
Its 6 years since TPM and i still aint figured if i like it or not.

i think alot of people don't like the prequels because alot of movies have tried to copy Star Wars since its release in 1977.

so when PM came out in 99 people were not really swept of their feet compared to the originals, because nothing else had been seen like that (Star Wars '77).

plus the fans from the originals were much older than they were back in 77, so things look and feel different when your much older.

do you understand??

Originally posted by macgeek2005
Well said. And that comes down to another point that i've been on in the past few days.

Han Solo doesn't fit. He just doesn't fit. You have Yoda, who was there all along, you have Ben (Obi-Wan) who was there all along. You have Luke and Leia the twins of the Queen of naboo, and Darth Vader. You've got the droids, R2-D2 Upgraded by Darth Vader, and C-3PO, built by Darth Vader.

Han Solo is an empty being, and I find it very annoying that he's a main character. It's like WHAT THE ****? WHO ARE YOU? What are you doing here? What do you have to do with anything that's been going on in the last 6 hours of movies.

And he goes around doing his business, as though hes a main character (which he is unfortunetaly) but he has nothing behind him. I HATE HIM.

macgeek, you have reached a new high with your stupidity. Well done.

The Star Wars universe is getting smaller and smaller as it is. Darth Vader builds C3PO, Boba Fetts dad is the original stormtrooper. Nothing seems to be like an adventure any more.

Thank the Lord that Han Solo is still Solo and not a long distant cousin of Chewbacca - but I bet that would be good to you macgeek.

Clown shoe wearring fool.

Originally posted by Da_Guru
The prequals are cool movies. They have awesome Special Effects and they have much better space battles and lightsaber battles and fight scenes than the originals. However the originals had better storylines and there was something special about them. The Prequal Trilogy not only has some really crappy dialogue but George used a bit to much CGI. But there still Star Wars and very good movies in my books. Not as good as the originals though.

ya know, that just about sums up what i think of the prequels. The dialogue was the main downfall of the PT, but they are still Star Wars and they gave me that same feeling when i first watched the originals. I actually think the storylines in TPM and AOTC were very well done. Palpatines rise to power, Darth Maul, Qui-Gon, the fall of Anakin Skywalker and Yoda's best line in the PT (imho) "Fear is the path to the Darkside. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate. Hate.....leads to suffering.." - that has to be the one and only memorable piece of dialogue of the Prequels yet✅

oh and macgeek? just for the record, HAN SOLO KICKS UR ASS, KICKS MY ASS, KICKS EVERYONES ASS! how could you hate him? he IS star wars

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If you are a true fan of star wars, then you should like the prequels, they have all the same elements of the OT, action at the beginning, story, action in the middle, story, action at the end and close. There was a review done by a couple of comic book guys from Calgary when TPM came out and they said there was no story, no character development and too many special effects and creatures??? these are the kind of so called fans that give SW a bad name. TPM had a good story, no character development, what did we learn about Han Solo that he was the captain of the Falcon and that's it. too many special effects and creatures??? This is frigin Star Wars thats what it is. in my opinion the order of the films from best to worst are 3,5,2,4,1,6
but that is my opinion and it will vary from person to person, but if you are a fan of the OT and hated the first 2 PT movies why would you go see #3, but if you are a true fan then you should love both triolgies

They are a disgrace to the originals...theres no comparison. Episode 3 better fix that error...

Originally posted by DeVi| D0do
this is an interesting article about PT vs. OT: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7383411/page/2/

Great article and how true. GL continues to say how critics have always hated Star Wars, but the OT got great reviews, and the original Star Wars even made it to AFI's top 100 list of all time. No, George, its the new ones that havent gotten THAT great of critical acclaim and for good reasons...even though critics really did like them overall, just not a lot like the old ones, which sums up my feelings exactly.

What I find so brilliant about Star Wars is how everybody is connected with the Tragedy from Episode III, EXCEPT for Han Solo. grrrrrr

Which makes the Star Wars universe....a small world after all. That's what I think is so lame about the prequels. Lucas felt he had to connect everyone in the PT with the OT somehow so that it feels like a small ass universe. Anakin makes 3PO, Chewie meets up with Yoda in Episode 3, etc. Which makes no sense, seeing as though Chewie doesn't know who they are in ANH, Darth Vader does not recognize 3PO at all, and now they are throwing it in that 3PO has his memory erased so that things will flow in ANH. Nope. Wrong. How come Owen Lars doesn't recognize 3PO or R2? In reality, he's really screwed things up trying to do this. The point is not supposed to be that they all knew each other. Thank God that they didn't have Han Solo in Episode 3.

This is something many new fans think is great, but which I think is a bad idea.

^ I agree, having Han in Ep III like Lucas had originally written woulda been going too far... actually Chewie was too far

Tarkin is OK, Mon Mothma I can live with, Greedo was stupid, I'm glad they cut that outta TPM, Boba Fett was unneeded...

Yes forgot some more there. Tarkin is definately ok as he would be there, as would Mon Mothma.

And yes Boba Fett was going too far. He was cool as a side character not a major character....

Hunchy is a prime example of a star wars fan that doesn't understand star wars.
Boba Fett was not a major character in any of the movies, it was cool to see where he came from and how is armor and him are tied into the OT.
If Chewie meets up with Yoda in EPIII, he doesn't see yoda in ANH so how can you say he doesn't know who they are, that makes no sense.
we don't know if he meets up with Obi-wan in EPIII.
Darth does not recognize C3PO, of course cause there are tons of droids out there that look like him so why would he care, if you see a red mustang and then 20 years later you see another doesn't mean it's the same car and you wouldn't care
Owen doesn't recognize C3PO or R2. first off in episode II he only sees R2 for about a minute, and as for C3PO, he never introduced himself to owen and again there are tons of droids that look like him and R2.
perhaps you should use your head, it's not that difficult to see what's going on.

this..this is BLASPHEMY!!! Han Solo takes obi wan and luke to rescue the princess!! he is Princess Leia's Love intrest!! he is a frickin general!! he made the first death star destruction possible!! he rescues luke from the elements on hoth!! he is the main plot point for the first bit of return of the jed!! and he was a space gunslinger !!! how could he NOT be a Main Character!! When someone has a lot of screeen time they HAve to become a Main character i suppose! what would you rather:
some nobody background dude did all the things ive just mentioned? You surely would still be saying WHAT THE ****? WHO ARE YOU?, would u not???

Originally posted by darthmaul1
Hunchy is a prime example of a star wars fan that doesn't understand star wars.
Boba Fett was not a major character in any of the movies, it was cool to see where he came from and how is armor and him are tied into the OT.
If Chewie meets up with Yoda in EPIII, he doesn't see yoda in ANH so how can you say he doesn't know who they are, that makes no sense.
we don't know if he meets up with Obi-wan in EPIII.
Darth does not recognize C3PO, of course cause there are tons of droids out there that look like him so why would he care, if you see a red mustang and then 20 years later you see another doesn't mean it's the same car and you wouldn't care
Owen doesn't recognize C3PO or R2. first off in episode II he only sees R2 for about a minute, and as for C3PO, he never introduced himself to owen and again there are tons of droids that look like him and R2.
perhaps you should use your head, it's not that difficult to see what's going on.

I agree with Hunchy, it makes the Star Wars universe so small that everyone's connected.

Originally posted by Ogami Itto
this..this is BLASPHEMY!!! Han Solo takes obi wan and luke to rescue the princess!! he is Princess Leia's Love intrest!! he is a frickin general!! he made the first death star destruction possible!! he rescues luke from the elements on hoth!! he is the main plot point for the first bit of return of the jed!! and he was a space gunslinger !!! how could he NOT be a Main Character!! When someone has a lot of screeen time they HAve to become a Main character i suppose! what would you rather:
some nobody background dude did all the things ive just mentioned? You surely would still be saying WHAT THE ****? WHO ARE YOU?, would u not???

Originally posted by darthmaul1
Hunchy is a prime example of a star wars fan that doesn't understand star wars.
Boba Fett was not a major character in any of the movies, it was cool to see where he came from and how is armor and him are tied into the OT.
If Chewie meets up with Yoda in EPIII, he doesn't see yoda in ANH so how can you say he doesn't know who they are, that makes no sense.
we don't know if he meets up with Obi-wan in EPIII.
Darth does not recognize C3PO, of course cause there are tons of droids out there that look like him so why would he care, if you see a red mustang and then 20 years later you see another doesn't mean it's the same car and you wouldn't care
Owen doesn't recognize C3PO or R2. first off in episode II he only sees R2 for about a minute, and as for C3PO, he never introduced himself to owen and again there are tons of droids that look like him and R2.
perhaps you should use your head, it's not that difficult to see what's going on.

Thanks for backing me Dodo. Exactly Boba Fett was not a major character in any of the movies. He doesn't need anymore than that. It's not that I don't understand Star Wars just because I don't agree with you. It's not the point of who meets up with whom, its just the fact that Chewie knew Yoda who is of course connected to the others, who is from the main group from the originals.

Now your just trying to cover up for GL's mistakes that he tried to explain in the PT. Your wrong. Darth Vader doesn't recognize 3PO because when they made the OT, it wasn't planned that he had created him.

And now here's where you don't make any sense. Owen Lars, his dad, and his "girlfriend" (another great line from the PT "Hello. This is my girlfriend"😉 own 3PO. So obviously they DO know him. Point after point, when they made the OT, none of this was thought up. It was simply thought up for the PT. You must obviously be a new fan....

I think it's cool to see that Boba's armor comes from the old clone trooper armor,
Who did Lucas tie in that makes the galaxy small? C3PO to anakin and Chewie meeting Yoda if he does i don't know. and Boba Fett thats all that I can think of
The star wars story is centralized around the skywalker family so the galaxy has to be small if it was huge then it would be dumb of how these people meet up.