It seems to depend mostly on who's writing it, as the characters' respective powers fluxuate wildly. However, imho, Flash's most wildly extreme feats >>> non-PC Superman's, so I guess Flash wins with 1,000 IMPs or whatever.
At least until a writer arbitrarily decides that Superman is actually faster again, and then the cycle repeats itself. 😉
I posted a pic a few pages back showing Flash saying he is faster than heat vision. Which he is by the way but when he was outrunning the heat vision Superman was right behind him.
I know Flash is faster than Superman but I dont think the difference is gonna help Flash very much. But then again he can always steal Supermans speed. But on the other hand Superman has his durability, strength, and various vision and hearing powers also that he could use if Flash takes away his speed.
In AOS #642 Superman took out Martian Manhunter, John Stewart, Hawkman, Black Canary, and Flash.
He even made the comment something like "Wally is fast enough to see it coming but not fast enough to do anythig about it."
Flash can win but he must utilize his slight speed advantage wisely.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I posted a pic a few pages back showing Flash saying he is faster than heat vision. Which he is by the way but when he was outrunning the heat vision Superman was right behind him.I know Flash is faster than Superman but I dont think the difference is gonna help Flash very much. But then again he can always steal Supermans speed. But on the other hand Superman has his durability, strength, and various vision and hearing powers also that he could use if Flash takes away his speed.
In AOS #642 Superman took out Martian Manhunter, John Stewart, Hawkman, Black Canary, and Flash.
He even made the comment something like "Wally is fast enough to see it coming but not fast enough to do anythig about it."
Flash can win but he must utilize his slight speed advantage wisely.
Not if Flash takes away all his speed. Then his other attacks are literally worthless. He might as well be a statue. Actually, he would be if Flash took away all his strength. I stand corrected to myself.
Why is this so difficult? Superman without a doubt. They both have speed. And no don't say flash is faster they both are the same. In the cartoon hen they raced they were both even. Plus Superman has heat vision. So what if Flash has million punching thingie? Superman deflects bullets man. BULLETS!
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Originally posted by Goldenskull777
Why is this so difficult? Superman without a doubt. They both have speed. And no don't say flash is faster they both are the same. In the cartoon hen they raced they were both even. Plus Superman has heat vision. So what if Flash has million punching thingie? Superman deflects bullets man. BULLETS!
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It actually hurt to read your post.
You clearly know nothing about either of them. Or not enough at least.
Flash is far than Superman at their fullest.
Flash's Speed>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Superman's speed.
Your problem is that you're basing off of the cartoon.
And Flash can and has easily outrun Superman's heat vision.
Superman has to many advantages to lose this, and supermans speed is getting pretty high up there i mean he flew to the sun in seconds and it even takes like 8 min for light to reach the earth from the sun so thats pretty freakin fast, second i mean he can fly that is a HUGE advantage when your fighting someone who cant. I mean im sure i dont have to go over all of Supermans abilities for yall to realize that as tough as the flash is Superman has this one.
I agree with Dreampanther on this one.
I call it a draw.
Superman may or may not be fast enough to fight Flash.
But I don't think that Flash could hit Supes hard enough to defeat him - IMP or not, Supes is tougher than Zum.
The only way Supes could win is by leaving the battle field and blitzing the surface of the planet with wide-angled heat vision.
But he wouldn't - and in the rules, prob can't - do that.
So I call it a draw - Flash being able to outmaneuvor Supes but being unable to put him down without exhausting himself in the process.
Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
I agree with Dreampanther on this one.I call it a draw.
Superman may or may not be fast enough to fight Flash.
But I don't think that Flash could hit Supes hard enough to defeat him - IMP or not, Supes is tougher than Zum.
The only way Supes could win is by leaving the battle field and blitzing the surface of the planet with wide-angled heat vision.
But he wouldn't - and in the rules, prob can't - do that.
So I call it a draw - Flash being able to outmaneuvor Supes but being unable to put him down without exhausting himself in the process.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Flash exhausting himself?
Wally doesn't tire out, he's substained from SF energy.
100 IMP will K.O. Supes.
You must deal with it, Supes will lose.
Also potentially Wally could just fly, cause he has total control on his molecules, it's just a matter of willpower.
The only flash that could fly was kingdom come flash cause he truly did have coplete control over his molecules and kc flash was way way way tougher then flash could dream of being, so pretty much flash isnt going to touch superman if superman is flying second death stroke was able to stab flash so im pretty sure superman could do it also, and further more superman is able to go alot faster then light speed now in the comics and i believe flash cant considering he could get stuck in the speed force if he does
Originally posted by superman302
The only flash that could fly was kingdom come flash cause he truly did have coplete control over his molecules and kc flash was way way way tougher then flash could dream of being, so pretty much flash isnt going to touch superman if superman is flying second death stroke was able to stab flash so im pretty sure superman could do it also, and further more superman is able to go alot faster then light speed now in the comics and i believe flash cant considering he could get stuck in the speed force if he does
...Oh, man. Did you just say Superman is faster than Flash?
Oh Lord...here it comes.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Flash exhausting himself?
Wally doesn't tire out, he's substained from SF energy.
100 IMP will K.O. Supes.
You must deal with it, Supes will lose.
Also potentially Wally could just fly, cause he has total control on his molecules, it's just a matter of willpower.
Superman is fast enough to land one punch , and that's all he whould need.
I don't remember Flash ever beating Superman ? do you
but there was this time where Superman had the Jla on their Knees
Originally posted by superman302
The only flash that could fly was kingdom come flash cause he truly did have coplete control over his molecules and kc flash was way way way tougher then flash could dream of being, so pretty much flash isnt going to touch superman if superman is flying second death stroke was able to stab flash so im pretty sure superman could do it also, and further more superman is able to go alot faster then light speed now in the comics and i believe flash cant considering he could get stuck in the speed force if he does