Thor Vs. Magneto

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
"Yeah, Rune King Thor is a skyfather. Or beyond. Obviously that one beats Magneto. Hell, that one could probably beat Galactus."

Odin and the worlds pantheons couldnt beat a single celestial. When the 3rd host arrived. They and the destroyer got sent packing. Galactus has proved hes far more powerful than the average celestial in the earth x comics. He took out two singlehandedly. Rune King Thor would get his arse incinerated

A single Celestial is FAR more powerful than Galactus. Earth X isn't in continuity, and Earth X Galactus isn't Galactus - he's Franklin Richards. So that doesn't mean anything.

The Black Celestial was able to physically morph Galactus into something that couldn't stop his own hunger - against his will. Thor was able to Godblast Galactus into submission. Galactus said he was going to die if he took another shot. Thor did his worst to a Celestial and did absolutely nothing. Eventually, the Celestial LET Thor break its armor so it could study his hammer.

Originally posted by kgkg
some people here don't understand Galactus's power.

His is at least Top 10 in marvel

Galactus has an important role in the Marvel Universe...doesn't make him the most powerful.

Originally posted by demigawd
A single Celestial is FAR more powerful than Galactus. Earth X isn't in continuity, and Earth X Galactus isn't Galactus - he's Franklin Richards. So that doesn't mean anything.

The Black Celestial was able to physically morph Galactus into something that couldn't stop his own hunger - against his will. Thor was able to Godblast Galactus into submission. Galactus said he was going to die if he took another shot. Thor did his worst to a Celestial and did absolutely nothing. Eventually, the Celestial LET Thor break its armor so it could study his hammer.

Galactus has an important role in the Marvel Universe...doesn't make him the most powerful.

name ten marvel character that are stonger than a full fed galactus

There are at least ten abstracts. Obviously the abstracts are more powerful than Galactus. People like Eternity, Infinity, Death, Oblivion, Love, Hate, etc.

Among "physical" beings, all of the Celestials are more powerful, IMO. I'd also put Cosmic Cube beings above him, too (Kubik, Beyonder, etc.).

Originally posted by demigawd
There are at least ten abstracts. Obviously the abstracts are more powerful than Galactus. People like Eternity, Infinity, Death, Oblivion, Love, Hate, etc.

Among "physical" beings, all of the Celestials are more powerful, IMO. I'd also put Cosmic Cube beings above him, too (Kubik, Beyonder, etc.).

how do you know all abstracts are stonger than Galactus did you read IG.

Galactus was seen as of the bigger guys even among abstracts beings. You are just guessing and that's all.

Love , Hate , Chorus and weaker abstracts can do shit to Galactus if they can provide some proff.

Kubick , cosmic cube beings agains just you opinon.

there aren't many people that can beat Galactus

Originally posted by demigawd
[B]A single Celestial is FAR more powerful than Galactus. Earth X isn't in continuity, and Earth X Galactus isn't Galactus - he's Franklin Richards. So that doesn't mean anything.

You mean a hungry Galactus. A normal Galactus is just as strong or stronger than a Celestial. What has a Celestial done that Galactus hasn't? Galactus created Tyrant. Their fight destroyed galaxies; Galactus won and weakened him. He stalemated Agamotto in it's own realm.

On a whim, he creates guys like Morg, Surfer, Terrax, Stardust, etc.

Thor was able to Godblast Galactus into submission. Galactus said he was going to die if he took another shot.

So? If your going to argue this, then why would you assume Magneto can win against Thor? Unless you think Mage's shield can withstand a godblast.

Or are you going to say he can mindcontrol Thor, mindcontrolling is a minor power that Galactus can do.

Also, a godblast couldn't even take down Juggernaut, but it's going to do so to Galactus...and kill him? Talk about crappy writting.

Thor did his worst to a Celestial and did absolutely nothing. Eventually, the Celestial LET Thor break its armor so it could study his hammer.

Oh, so now your saying the Celestial "LET" Thor break his armor? 🙄 In Gladiator Vs. Magneto, you argued as if Thor using the godblast broke through the armor. Now in this argument, your saying the Celestial "LET" him? So which is it?

demigawd There are at least ten abstracts. Obviously the abstracts are more powerful than Galactus. People like Eternity, Infinity, Death, Oblivion, Love, Hate, etc.

Among "physical" beings, all of the Celestials are more powerful, IMO. I'd also put Cosmic Cube beings above him, too (Kubik, Beyonder, etc.).

Kubik explained to Kosmos that beings like the Vishanti, Galactus, Celestials, Chaos, Order, etc. are above them. Again, a Celestial isn't above Galactus. Bring in the top tier level and you'd have something.

Magneto controls minds...he's not a telepath. the nature of his mind control is more physical, which makes it harder for Thor to resist than regular telepathy. Similar to how the Purple Man's control over minds isn't telepathic, so conventional telepathic blocks don't work. And Thor isn't immune...he's been mind-controlled on several occasions.

Mags wins this more easily than ever.

Where do you get this crap? Thor's an asgardian; their biology isn't normal either. And he's leagues above your average asgardian. Yeah, mindcontrolled by people with magic, not physical mindcontrol.

Telepathy>physical mindcontrol - Xavier, Emma, Jean, Cable

Originally posted by Beyonder
You mean a hungry Galactus. A normal Galactus is just as strong or stronger than a Celestial. What has a Celestial done that Galactus hasn't? Galactus created Tyrant. Their fight destroyed galaxies; Galactus won and weakened him. He stalemated Agamotto in it's own realm.

On a whim, he creates guys like Morg, Surfer, Terrax, Stardust, etc.

So? If your going to argue this, then why would you assume Magneto can win against Thor? Unless you think Mage's shield can withstand a godblast.

Or are you going to say he can mindcontrol Thor, mindcontrolling is a minor power that Galactus can do.

Also, a godblast couldn't even take down Juggernaut, but it's going to do so to Galactus...and kill him? Talk about crappy writting.

Oh, so now your saying the Celestial "LET" Thor break his armor? 🙄 In Gladiator Vs. Magneto, you argued as if Thor using the godblast broke through the armor. Now in this argument, your saying the Celestial "LET" him? So which is it?

Kubik explained to Kosmos that beings like the Vishanti, Galactus, Celestials, Chaos, Order, etc. are above them. Again, a Celestial isn't above Galactus. Bring in the top tier level and you'd have something.

Where do you get this crap? Thor's an asgardian; their biology isn't normal either. And he's leagues above your average asgardian. Yeah, mindcontrolled by people with magic, not physical mindcontrol.

Telepathy>physical mindcontrol - Xavier, Emma, Jean, Cable

well put.

Galactus is no joke.

hey demi mebee magneto can mind control galactus to.

Originally posted by kgkg
how do you know all abstracts are stonger than Galactus did you read IG.

????

Are you kidding me?

Marvel has long ago stated that abstracts are omniversal in nature - physical beings are nothing to them. OF COURSE abstracts are more powerful than Galactus - they represent fundamental aspects of reality - they control those aspects on an absolute scale. Galactus is absolutely nothing to them. He'd even tell you that much.

Galactus was seen as of the bigger guys even among abstracts beings. You are just guessing and that's all.

He was never portrayed that way. Physically larger, maybe, but who cares...they're abstract. They can appear as large or as small as they want.

Love , Hate , Chorus and weaker abstracts can do shit to Galactus if they can provide some proff.

huh?

Kubick , cosmic cube beings agains just you opinon.

Doom with a cosmic cube was able to completely punk Galactus and take his power. Reed with a cosmic cube was able to take Doom's Galactus power. If the power of a cosmic cube can just ROB Galactus of his power completely like that, then we're dealing with power on a larger scale than G can cope with.

there aren't many people that can beat Galactus

True. Out of a universe of trillions, 20 or so is a pretty small number.

Originally posted by Beyonder
You mean a hungry Galactus. A normal Galactus is just as strong or stronger than a Celestial.

Not even close.

What has a Celestial done that Galactus hasn't?

A Celestial physically altered Galactus in a way Galactus was unable to change on his own. The combined might of the entire skyfather pantheon was unable to punt a dent in a Celestial, while Thor by himself was able to Godblast Galactus into submission. Celestials show reality warping, the ability to physically unhinge planets out of orbit and throw them like weapons (while Galactus has trouble against people like Ego, who did worse against GLADIATOR of all people). Phoenix had Galactus on the ropes, while Phoenix with the combined mental power of the planet Earth was only able to muster enough power to destroy a Celestial's hand (which he subsequently regenerated). Galactus seems to just go around creating beings nearly powerful enough to kill him. wow! Can you say "overrated"?

Galactus is filled with low end showings. Celestials have but one.

Galactus created Tyrant. Their fight destroyed galaxies; Galactus won and weakened him.

*shrug* So did Odin's fight with Seth. That earns Galactus a lofty place as a SKYFATHER.

He stalemated Agamotto in it's own realm.

A stalemate is the best you can muster as evidence of G's might? Pfft. He couldn't even hurt Agamotto because G was limited to PHYSICAL attacks. All he did was break some of Aga's stuff, which pissed him off. He didn't do any damage to Aga AT ALL. He also stalemated Mephisto in his own realm...Black Panther BEAT Mephisto in his own realm.

On a whim, he creates guys like Morg, Surfer, Terrax, Stardust, etc.

Um...congratulations to him. He creates beings less powerful than he is. Yippee.

So? If your going to argue this, then why would you assume Magneto can win against Thor? Unless you think Mage's shield can withstand a godblast.

The point is, Magneto's upper limits of his shields aren't known. Assuming Thor could even land a godblast, there's no telling how the shields will hold. It wouldn't even matter - Magneto would just redirect it with a wormhole. Galactus was too stupid to have his shields up.

Or are you going to say he can mindcontrol Thor, mindcontrolling is a minor power that Galactus can do.

Pity he didn't do it against Thor....would have saved him a beatdown.

Also, a godblast couldn't even take down Juggernaut, but it's going to do so to Galactus...and kill him? Talk about crappy writting.

Oh, the crappy writing excuse again, huh? Juggernaut not being taken down by a godblast is crappy writing, how about that?

I might add that Thor almost killed Galactus TWICE, in two separate eras. Both crappy writing?

Oh, so now your saying the Celestial "LET" Thor break his armor? 🙄

Don't take it up with me, take it up with Thor. He said that as he was floating around in the celestial, he came to understand that the Celestial let him do it so they could examine his hammer while it was all inside of the Celestial. They exist in all places at once, so him cracking their armor and jumping in made no difference. They set the whole thing up, and when they were done exploring the hammer, the Celestial summarily dismissed him from its body.

Kubik explained to Kosmos that beings like the Vishanti, Galactus, Celestials, Chaos, Order, etc. are above them. Again, a Celestial isn't above Galactus. Bring in the top tier level and you'd have something.

Thor explained that Celestials represent the next order of magnitude in the overall power pantheon. Marvel seconded that in their own letters page. So the only sources that compare a Celstial to Galactus both agree that Celestials are more powerful.

Where do you get this crap? Thor's an asgardian; their biology isn't normal either. And he's leagues above your average asgardian. Yeah, mindcontrolled by people with magic, not physical mindcontrol.

He was mind-controlled by Moondragon. Xavier communicated with him telepathically. Both of these are telepathic in nature. OF COURSE Thor can be mind-controlled by more than magic means. To think otherwise is ridiculous, even for you.

Telepathy>physical mindcontrol - Xavier, Emma, Jean, Cable

Untrue. Telepathy creates a physical effect on the brain chemistry - you are essentially telling your mind to alter its own electrical impulses. A person with strong enough resistence can prevent their minds from sending that signal to itself. But if you control the electrical impulses directly, there's no issue of willpower to deal with - you're telling telling someone to alter their own electrical impulses...you're doing it for them. Physical mind control is FAR more powerful than telepathy.

"while Phoenix with the combined mental power of the planet Earth was only able to muster enough power to destroy a Celestial's hand (which he subsequently regenerated). "

There can only be one avatar at a time performing phoenix duties. Which is why jean didnt start manifesting the phoenix again until after rachel got sucked in2 the time stream. And also why rachel became the phoenix avatar after jean killed herself on the moon. The phoenix who destroyed the celestials hand would have been at the level we mostly know her for so just a very powerful tp/tk. So it was her who destroyed the celestials hand.

Originally posted by demigawd
[B]Not even close.

Wow, what an argument.

A Celestial physically altered Galactus in a way Galactus was unable to change on his own. The combined might of the entire skyfather pantheon was unable to punt a dent in a Celestial, while Thor by himself was able to Godblast Galactus into submission.

A Celestial? You make the Dreaming Celestial sound as if the guy was your average Celestial. He was one of the top tier among the Celestials.

So Thor put Galactus down with a godblast; he broke through a Celestial according to you. Thor is above Galactus and Celestial - and the entire pantheon of skyfathers.

Celestials show reality warping, the ability to physically unhinge planets out of orbit and throw them like weapons (while Galactus has trouble against people like Ego, who did worse against GLADIATOR of all people).

:laughs: He Ego didn't have trouble with Gladiator. The Shi'Ar starship attacked Ego (which didn't do much) while Gladiator, however, was blitzing Ego at lightspeed - Kallark was damaging Ego but nothing serious. Kallark was but a pest; the fact the Gladiator did it against Ego was a feat.

Phoenix had Galactus on the ropes, while Phoenix with the combined mental power of the planet Earth was only able to muster enough power to destroy a Celestial's hand (which he subsequently regenerated). Galactus seems to just go around creating beings nearly powerful enough to kill him. wow! Can you say "overrated"?

Hahahaha, Galactus was there to consume. You wanna compare a hungry Galactus to a Celestial? Please don't bring sh!ts like that in. Phoenix didn't do anything to Galactus; was any of Galactus' limbs even destroyed?

Galactus is filled with low end showings. Celestials have but one.

? Of course he's gonna have low end showings, he's appeared more than the Celestials. What's your point?

*shrug* So did Odin's fight with Seth. That earns Galactus a lofty place as a SKYFATHER.

Are you cold? Odin and Seth's fight only SHOOK the multiverse, it didn't destroy galaxies.

A stalemate is the best you can muster as evidence of G's might? Pfft. He couldn't even hurt Agamotto because G was limited to PHYSICAL attacks.

? Neither did Agamotto hurt him. And of course he was hurting Agamotto, he was blasting parts of Agamotto off but it didn't stop it. Agamotto couldn't do sh!t against Galactus either, even in it's own realm.

All he did was break some of Aga's stuff, which pissed him off. He didn't do any damage to Aga AT ALL. He also stalemated Mephisto in his own realm...Black Panther BEAT Mephisto in his own realm.

Neither did Agamotto rid Galactus from his realm as it wanted. He stalemated Mephisto until he started devouring Meph's realm. Guess what happened then? Mephisto gave up. Blank Panther? Please, you make it sound as if Panther went into hell and physically battled the demon. BP used spells to capture Meph on Earth plane. Strange has done the same thing, with ease, evoking Meph, binding him, and blindfolding him. Meph is weak out of his dimension - Galactus kicked his butt in it's hell realm.

Um...congratulations to him. He creates beings less powerful than he is. Yippee.

You're being dillusional again. I guess I better call Batman and Arkam Asylum.

The point is, Magneto's upper limits of his shields aren't known. Assuming Thor could even land a godblast, there's no telling how the shields will hold. It wouldn't even matter - Magneto would just redirect it with a wormhole. Galactus was too stupid to have his shields up.

Redirect? Boy Maggy's fast.

Pity he didn't do it against Thor....would have saved him a beatdown.

Oh, the crappy writing excuse again, huh? Juggernaut not being taken down by a godblast is crappy writing, how about that?

?Yes, because going by your logic Juggernaut and Magneto's shield > either Galactus or a Celestial. 🙄

I might add that Thor almost killed Galactus TWICE, in two separate eras. Both crappy writing?

When? And when? Thor's also kicked Surfer's ass. And we all know Surfer would punk Magneto, so would Loki, Mephisto, and Pluto.

Don't take it up with me, take it up with Thor. He said that as he was floating around in the celestial, he came to understand that the Celestial let him do it so they could examine his hammer while it was all inside of the Celestial. They exist in all places at once, so him cracking their armor and jumping in made no difference. They set the whole thing up, and when they were done exploring the hammer, the Celestial summarily dismissed him from its body.

Really, then don't bring it up as a strength level for Thor to further your argument for Magneto's shield.

Thor explained that Celestials represent the next order of magnitude in the overall power pantheon. Marvel seconded that in their own letters page. So the only sources that compare a Celstial to Galactus both agree that Celestials are more powerful.

You mean by Thor writters right? It doesn't mean all of Marvel does. And why are you bringing up top tier Celestials against hungery versions of Galactus.

He was mind-controlled by Moondragon. Xavier communicated with him telepathically. Both of these are telepathic in nature. OF COURSE Thor can be mind-controlled by more than magic means. To think otherwise is ridiculous, even for you.

Moondragon is top level telepath with the Mindgem. Xavier is also. And him communicating with Thor doesn't mean he can control Thor. And are you saying Magneto's mind control is on Xavier or Moondragon's level. 🙄

Untrue. Telepathy creates a physical effect on the brain chemistry - you are essentially telling your mind to alter its own electrical impulses. A person with strong enough resistence can prevent their minds from sending that signal to itself. But if you control the electrical impulses directly, there's no issue of willpower to deal with - you're telling telling someone to alter their own electrical impulses...you're doing it for them. Physical mind control is FAR more powerful than telepathy.

To a degree. Once you move up to superbeings who's biology is far superior, Magneto ain't going to pull it off like telepaths. It's not just entering ones mind, ever heard of the astral plane? You seem to think it's just about telling ones mind to alter its own electrical impulses, it's more than that in comics. You think Magneto can alter Thor's mind easier than if Moondragon did it? Again, asgardains have superior biology to humans, Thor's far above normal asgardians. Hell, his father is a skyfather while his mother is an Elder God. Your average asgardian can lift only 2 to 3 tons. Thor is class 100 and is as tough as any brick.

But you know what Thor has? A mind. And from what I've seen, Thor's mind operates like every body else, not any faster. Magneto's isn't mindcontrolling Thor like Loki or Enchantress, not even close to Xavier and moondragon.

Originally posted by demigawd
????

Are you kidding me?

Marvel has long ago stated that abstracts are omniversal in nature - physical beings are nothing to them. OF COURSE abstracts are more powerful than Galactus - they represent fundamental aspects of reality - they control those aspects on an absolute scale. Galactus is absolutely nothing to them. He'd even tell you that much.

? No there not. Abstract my butt. More powerful? Where were these beings when Abraxas showed himself? Was any of these the ones than went before LT to ask for the vedict of the Infinity Gems to be reversed? Where were they when the Magus was a threat to reality? Eternity was in a catatonic state, where were they if they were so powerful? The only abstracts that are equal or above Galactus is Chaos and Order. Love and Hate aren't. I highly doubt Chronos is either.

He was never portrayed that way. Physically larger, maybe, but who cares...they're abstract. They can appear as large or as small as they want.

? What does that have anything to do with power?

Doom with a cosmic cube was able to completely punk Galactus and take his power. Reed with a cosmic cube was able to take Doom's Galactus power. If the power of a cosmic cube can just ROB Galactus of his power completely like that, then we're dealing with power on a larger scale than G can cope with.

Doom with Surfer's powers did things Surfer never did. Guess what? Who'da think Doom with his tech could take herald and Watcher's powers? Guess what? He does. He even tried it in The End.

Shit, I posted a point by point reply, and I attached an image of Thor beating Galactus. When I hit "submit", it said, "image too large", and deleted my entire post. Mods should do something about that. I'm not going to write all of that over again, so here's the reader's digest version:

1. Galactus wasn't hungry when he was BEATEN and SPARED by the Phoenix, and he wasn't hungry or weak when he encountered Thor either time. Fanboys love using that excuse, like Galactus is perpetually starving. He's not...he's just not that powerful. high end Skyfather at most.

2. Thor with a godblast nearly killed Galactus. Thor with multiple godblasts put a small hole in a Celestial that he jumped into (the Celestial was unharmed). He later learned that the Celestial simply allowed him to do it so it could examine his hammer.

3. Thor cracking Celestial armor, even if the Celestial allowed it, is still a HUGE feat because it still takes temendous force to break through the armor. Celestials, because of their reality/matter manipultion can prevent that from taking place, but it chose not to. Hence, it's both a good showing for Thor that he was able to get through and a good showing for a Celestial in that Thor's Galactus-felling blow did no damage to the Celestial that the Celestial didn't allow to happen.

4. Galactus has more appearances than Celestials, yet has both MORE low end showings and FEWER high end showings. A low ranked Celestial beat Protege, who YANKED Mephisto out of his realm over and over and terrified Mephisto like nobody before ever did. If Galactus had power anything like that, he wouldnt' need to fight Mephisto in his own realm...he'd yank him out of it.

5. Odin and Seth's battle DID destroy galaxies. quote: "Long dead galaxies are shattered. Dying stars are reignited". And shaking the MULTIVERSE is more impressive than destroying galaxies anyway. Again, Galactus' "mighty" feat you mentioned is matched by lowly Odin. Galactus is just a skyfather. Accept it.

**I was able to preserve this part of the post, since I was going to split it in two:

To a degree. Once you move up to superbeings who's biology is far superior, Magneto ain't going to pull it off like telepaths. It's not just entering ones mind, ever heard of the astral plane? You seem to think it's just about telling ones mind to alter its own electrical impulses, it's more than that in comics.

No its not. Anytime someone is on the astral plane or under some kind of mind control, when they're hooked to scanner and monitors, the electronics show it in the physical change to the brain waves. Magneto himself was able to show the changes a telepathic command has on the brain when he did an MRI on Shola in Excalibur - he DREW the physical changes with his own power to create x-rays. Then he manipulated it back. Magneto also undid Doom's mental programming on Beast. So yes, telepathy are very much commands to alter one's electrical impulses to the brain, and yes Magneto can and has affected that, and yes, Thor, being a humanoid is just as suspecptible to that. How strong he is or how durable he is has nothing to do with his ability to control himself at a molecular level - he can't do it. That;s why Magneto wins.

You think Magneto can alter Thor's mind easier than if Moondragon did it? Again, asgardains have superior biology to humans, Thor's far above normal asgardians. Hell, his father is a skyfather while his mother is an Elder God. Your average asgardian can lift only 2 to 3 tons. Thor is class 100 and is as tough as any brick.

So? And your point is....?

It doesn't matter if Asgardian biology is superior. Magneto isn't infecting Thor with an STD, he's changing his brain chemistry. Superior biology won't mean jack when the electrical impulses in your brain are changing and you don't have the power to change it back. There's absolutely nothing thor can do about this.

But you know what Thor has? A mind. And from what I've seen, Thor's mind operates like every body else, not any faster. Magneto's isn't mindcontrolling Thor like Loki or Enchantress, not even close to Xavier and moondragon.

Thor's mind operates like everybody else's because it's based on a humanoid mind - it's structured the same, and works the same, which means it's prone to the same things, like changing the electrical impulses in it to achieve telepathic effects more efficiently.

So anything Thor does, Magneto has a counter for it. Then Magneto takes over Thor's mind, after he takes his hammer, and tells Thor to smash his own head against the wall forever.

Easy enough.

Originally posted by Beyonder
? No there not. Abstract my butt. More powerful? Where were these beings when Abraxas showed himself? Was any of these the ones than went before LT to ask for the vedict of the Infinity Gems to be reversed? Where were they when the Magus was a threat to reality? Eternity was in a catatonic state, where were they if they were so powerful? The only abstracts that are equal or above Galactus is Chaos and Order. Love and Hate aren't. I highly doubt Chronos is either.

All the abstracts are equal in power - they control universal elements. The only "abstract" that's ever been stated to be below Galactus is the in-betweener, and most people acknowledge that he's not really an abstract.

Abstracts don't get involved in those kinds of affairs. It generally takes something like the IG saga to get the mobilized because they're generally sworn to just play their universal role. So they wouldn't get involved in Abraxas. Your examples would be valid if they tried and failed to beat Abraxas - they didn't try, so saying that proves nothing.

? What does that have anything to do with power?

That's my point - he said that because Galactus appeared larger in size that he must be more powerful. that's not the case.

Doom with Surfer's powers did things Surfer never did. Guess what? Who'da think Doom with his tech could take herald and Watcher's powers? Guess what? He does. He even tried it in The End.

Yeah, but in order to take power from Galactus, you have to have something that can override something that Galactus can do. Surfer isn't a universal power like you believe Galactus is. There's a world of difference between stealing his power and stealing the power of Galactus. Doom, using ONLY a cosmic cube, was able to do it. That shows that it was able to override Galactus' self-control of his power. That's not impressive. You think Doom could do that to a Celestial? Please.

I know we're really getting of topic...but I don't think universal abstracts such as love/hate/chaos/order really have an effect on the Big G. He admits himself the he is beyond "good" and "evil" so I seriously doubt they do. The only abstracts I would really classify above him would be Eternity/Infinity Death/Oblivion. As far as the Celestial thing goes, I believe he is probably on par(power wise) with a Celestial at full power, seeing as how he fought with the most powerful celestial(TOAA) in the IG Saga against Thanos. Besides, even if a Celestial did manage to overpower him, they wouldn't be able to destroy him..he's regenerated himself after being nullified, as well as from total obliteration by a blast from the Magus's cosmic cubes, something I don't believe any of the Celestials could do. Galactus essentially maintains the balance between all life/death in the universe(this includes the Celestials) without him the Universe would presumably come to an end.

Originally posted by kgkg
name ten marvel character that are stonger than a full fed galactus

PF (demigawd, PF obvously has greater power than Celestails)
Eterntiy (kgkg, they are easily more pwoerful, Death...)
Infinity
Oblivion
Death
LT
The one with IG (it doensn't count)
Celestials
Beyonder
maybe even Kubik

10, but It hink there could be some more.

Originally posted by Xplosive
PF (demigawd, PF obvously has greater power than Celestails)
Eterntiy (kgkg, they are easily more pwoerful, Death...)
Infinity
Oblivion
Death
LT
The one with IG (it doensn't count)
Celestials
Beyonder
maybe even Kubik

10, but It hink there could be some more.

Beyonder and Kubik ---- Beyond (Well he was illusionist, Kubick I don't think so)

Now as for Galactus getting his ass kicked.
- He is shown a lot more than Celestials/ Other cosmic entities.
- Surfers from bad writing.
- Most of his battle is in hungry mode.

LMAO am out.

Thor Vs. Magneto way out of topic

Like I said above, the "Galactus has made more appearances so he'll have more bad showings" excuse only works if he also had more good showings. He hasn't. The Celestials have had more good showings in their limited time than Galactus has had.

Don't give me the bad writing BS. I could name 10 bad showings right now and if you just dismiss them all as bad writing, then there's no point debating. I don't go around dismissing his good showings as bad writing, and it's gotten to the point where his bad showings outnumber his good showings...it's become part of his character. He's just being de-powered.

Additionally, most readers have the habit of assuming that if Galactus got owned it's because he MUST have been hungry. But it's never referenced as such in the actual storyline. When Galactus was getting beaten up by Tyrant...he wasn't hungry. When being killed over and over by Abraxas, he wasn't hungry. When he fought QUASAR to a draw, he wasn't hungry. When he was altered by the Black Celestial, he wasn't hungry. When he was beaten by the Phoenix Force, he wasn't hungry. When he was beaten by Thor TWICE, he wasn't hungry. When the best he could manage against Mephisto was a draw, he wasn't hungry. Ditto with Agamotto. Do I have to go on, or has my point been made?

Celestials, on the other hand, have had a single bad showings. Everything else has been far above Galactus.

But yeah, Magneto beats Thor. lol.

I cant believe this debate is actually goin on. This is regular thor people whom Magneto has owned along with his dozen or so avenger team mates singlehandedly on many occassions. Magneto has within his abilities to kill with a gesture a nigh invulnerable super strengthed being as he did when he took out those two neo a few years back in Xmen. That person was faster stronger and a lot more durable than rogue as he proved and that meant nothing. He got incinerated. Im not saying by any means that character could hav taken on thor but the point im makin is is magscan do that to a nigh invulnerable person with a gesture, then imagine what he could do to thor in a battle to the death where he would be very pi**ed off

Originally posted by demigawd
Like I said above, the "Galactus has made more appearances so he'll have more bad showings" excuse only works if he also had more good showings. He hasn't. The Celestials have had more good showings in their limited time than Galactus has had.

Don't give me the bad writing BS. I could name 10 bad showings right now and if you just dismiss them all as bad writing, then there's no point debating. I don't go around dismissing his good showings as bad writing, and it's gotten to the point where his bad showings outnumber his good showings...it's become part of his character. He's just being de-powered.

Additionally, most readers have the habit of assuming that if Galactus got owned it's because he MUST have been hungry. But it's never referenced as such in the actual storyline. When Galactus was getting beaten up by Tyrant...he wasn't hungry. When being killed over and over by Abraxas, he wasn't hungry. When he fought QUASAR to a draw, he wasn't hungry. When he was altered by the Black Celestial, he wasn't hungry. When he was beaten by the Phoenix Force, he wasn't hungry. When he was beaten by Thor TWICE, he wasn't hungry. When the best he could manage against Mephisto was a draw, he wasn't hungry. Ditto with Agamotto. Do I have to go on, or has my point been made?

Celestials, on the other hand, have had a single bad showings. Everything else has been far above Galactus.

Galactus being defeated by Thor, but you still know that Galactus is much, much more pwoerful being than Thor, and I think you know that. No comics, just by your thinking their pwoer level, it's no contest between Thor and Galactus.