rogue vs spiderman

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Rogue is known for her speed and she is a formidable fighter in her own right. What u forgot to factor into this fight is Rogues psychic seventh sense which allows her to anticipate an enemies actions giving her a slight edge in a fight. Spideys sense just warns him that hes in danger.
You should post some proof of this "anticipate" thing. You sure she hadn't drained that from somebody? And Spidey sense does more than that. When he's not being toned down for storytelling purposes. http://www.geocities.com/spydr7

I just thought I should let you all know something. I don't believe Rogue's speed will play much of a factor in this fight.

Years ago, our friendly neighborhood Spiderman faced off against, dare I say? Quicksilver. The fastest mutant. And Spiderman did indeed end up winning that match.

So, speed is really not a very arguable factor in this fight.

And Rogue would have a little more trouble with his webbing than some of you give her credit for. Even with her Class 50 Strength Level, it's still mighty difficult to just rip of webbing that is not only stuck to you, but it's as strong as thick steel cable. The webbing itself can support 10+ tons. That's a lot. She's going to have more trouble with it than some of you think.

And after seeing the many different opinions...I'm leaning more towards Spiderman on this one.

"You should post some proof of this "anticipate" thing. You sure she hadn't drained that from somebody"

Any1 who actallly is a long time reader of xmen and avenger comics would know this to be the truth. If people dont know about this then i suggest u read the comics or dont debate about a character u know little about cos your opinion will only b biased,

"Years ago, our friendly neighborhood Spiderman faced off against, dare I say? Quicksilver. The fastest mutant. And Spiderman did indeed end up winning that match."

Ground speed speed and flight speed are very nuch different things and are totally different to face off agains in comparison for different reasons. For quite apparent reasons,

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Any1 who actallly is a long time reader of xmen and avenger comics would know this to be the truth. If people dont know about this then i suggest u read the comics or dont debate about a character u know little about cos your opinion will only b biased,
You should try using the quote button. No need to be insulting. You sound like a "holyer than thou" fanboy when you say stuff like that. Think about it. I've got a right to debate if I want to. I'm not gonna stop just because I don't know what Rouge had for breakfast yesturday. That power you mentioned isn't common knowledge by any means. I merely wanted some reference dude and I still do. If you could provide it then maybe you could unbias my opinion. Wouldn't that be great? Relax.

That wasnt insulting in the slightest i never singled out anyone, Some people are just obviously over sensitive. It was, has and never will be my intention to insult some1 to win an argument. That is AC tactics. That is far from mine.

Obviously if u dont have sufficient knowledge about a character then u sould refrain from debating that seems very fair to me.

Originally posted by brainchild81
You should post some proof of this "anticipate" thing. You sure she hadn't drained that from somebody? [/url]

Check out Uncanny xmen 192 for the proof.
Nightcrawler was teleporting numerous times in rapid succession, rogue anticipated where he'd appear and backhanded him across the room before he could teleport out of her way. Then she took off and caught him in mid air before he spattered against the wall.

She hadn't absorbed anyone additional.

So her reflexes and precognitive abilities are up there pretty close to spidey's. Her strength, durability, and speed are far greater than his. All of these advantages plus the power draining touch makes Rogue much more likely to come out the victor in a fight with spiderman.

u go sbo!!!! lol

I'll check it out as soon as possible. Did they ever mention this as a power outright? She can get from point a to point B faster than Spidey because of flight, but that's about it. Spidey's punches and kicks will land, her's won't. She's not as fast as far as reflexes goes. He's had a pretty good showing against Cap. Britain before. Flying opponents are tough but Spidey knows how to fight them. He's gonna web the eyes and pound her repeatedly. It might take a while, but he'd KO her.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
That wasnt insulting in the slightest i never singled out anyone, Some people are just obviously over sensitive. It was, has and never will be my intention to insult some1 to win an argument. That is AC tactics. That is far from mine.
Then no hard feelings then. I'm just saying you can't expect everyone to know everything you might know about Rouge. When asked for proof, instead of just giving it, you made it seem like I should have known already. But it's in the past. We'll move on. No internet beef.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
"You should post some proof of this "anticipate" thing. You sure she hadn't drained that from somebody"

Any1 who actallly is a long time reader of xmen and avenger comics would know this to be the truth. If people dont know about this then i suggest u read the comics or dont debate about a character u know little about cos your opinion will only b biased,


That's the most elaborate way of saying "Proof? I don't have proof."
Originally posted by sbo
Check out Uncanny xmen 192 for the proof.
Nightcrawler was teleporting numerous times in rapid succession, rogue anticipated where he'd appear and backhanded him across the room before he could teleport out of her way. Then she took off and caught him in mid air before he spattered against the wall.

Cyclops has done the very same. Against Nightcrawler even.
So her reflexes and precognitive abilities are up there pretty close to spidey's. Her strength, durability, and speed are far greater than his. All of these advantages plus the power draining touch makes Rogue much more likely to come out the victor in a fight with spiderman.
Why does she get hit by as many people as she does then? People Spiderman would of dodged. Like Juggernaut or Sabretooth.

This sixth sense sound more on par with when your dad says he's a good judge of character or your grandma knows when the cookies are done.

"That's the most elaborate way of saying "Proof? I don't have proof.""

Thats why i luv u swanky!!! LOL. But yeah SBO's given evidence plus its also stated in her bio

"Why does she get hit by as many people as she does then? People Spiderman would of dodged. Like Juggernaut or Sabretooth."

Why does spiderman get hit as often as he does? Doc octopus, vulture, tombstone to name just a few, I know there are alot more. No defense system is ever 100%, you're going to get hit sometime no matter how good you are. The bad news for spidey in this fight is that 1 hit is all rogue needs to slow spiderman down ALOT if not ko him entirely.

"This sixth sense sound more on par with when your dad says he's a good judge of character or your grandma knows when the cookies are done."

They're actually nothing alike. The examples you gave judgements made based on experience, not intuition. Rogue anticipated and countered nightcrawler's attack in seconds, hardly enough time to learn from experience.

Originally posted by sbo
Why does spiderman get hit as often as he does? Doc octopus, vulture, tombstone to name just a few, I know there are alot more. No defense system is ever 100%, you're going to get hit sometime no matter how good you are. The bad news for spidey in this fight is that 1 hit is all rogue needs to slow spiderman down ALOT if not ko him entirely.

Well... Spiderman fought Juggernaut for days and obviously either didn't get hit or used his agility to deflect much of the force behind the blows. As soon as Rogue fights Juggernaut she gets choked.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Well... Spiderman fought Juggernaut for days and obviously either didn't get hit or used his agility to deflect much of the force behind the blows. As soon as Rogue fights Juggernaut she gets choked.

Juggernaut wouldn't really be that hard to avoid if all you're trying to do is stay alive. With Rogue it's an entirely different, he won't be able to outrun her no matter how fast he jumps or swings around.

And speaking of juggernaut, Rogue can afford to take a few punches. If getting punched across town by Juggs doesn't put her down, Spidey would have to pound on her for quite some time and avoid taking any hits himself to even hope to win.

Originally posted by sbo
Juggernaut wouldn't really be that hard to avoid if all you're trying to do is stay alive.
Rogue sure failed to avoid him. She may be able to afford getting hit but can she afford to be choked?

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In short SPIDEY WINS BYATCHES!!!

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Rogue sure failed to avoid him. She may be able to afford getting hit but can she afford to be choked?

Could Rogue afford to be choked by spiderman? Absolutely.

Could he afford to be choked by Rogue? absolutely Not.
She could probably squeeze his neck hard enough to pop his head clean off.

And trying to put Rogue in a choke hold is the last thing spiderman should to do. Anything that puts him in close contact with Rogue for a prolonged period of time will only make his defeat come that much quicker.