Originally posted by JWangSDC
I donno, Orion vs Superman is already an even bout. Superman has never beaten darkseid without a technicality and it's basically understood that superman is not as powerful as darkseid.Thor vs Orion would be a great fight, of coruse orion has to have his Astro Harness
Superman - is faster (has many other powers)
Darkseid couldn’t fight doomsday , while Superman give him a fight.
Now as for Silver Surfer --- He hardly uses tricks to beat his opponents.
If he used all his powers. (most of his fight will last one second)
Some example - gladiator , hulk , thing (he fights fair)
Orion cannot beat Darkseid , while superman can.
no wait, what happen was they where fighting for apokolips (orion issue 5) orion was holding his own then darkseid used his omega beams orion was dodgeing them and he was heading towards darkseid and the beams where right behind and at the last minute he moved the beams hitting darkseid. Orion thinking that his father is dead he was ruling Apokolips killing desad, in issue 8 darkseid return with metron and he teleported orion into another deminsion.
Originally posted by the Darkone
no wait, what happen was they where fighting for apokolips (orion issue 5) orion was holding his own then darkseid used his omega beams orion was dodgeing them and he was heading towards darkseid and the beams where right behind and at the last minute he moved the beams hitting darkseid. Orion thinking that his father is dead he was ruling Apokolips killing desad, in issue 8 darkseid return with metron and he teleported orion into another deminsion.
cool thanks for the recap.meatwad
Orion couldnt take a full force GF from Thor, nor could Thor take a AF from Orion.
With weapons its a toss up.
But H2H Orion is a better fighter, more experienced or not Thor is a brawler, Orion is a stronger and more controlled fighter(i.e martial arts and many forms of other combat) and could out manuever Thor...faux berserk or not...when he does it, Thor goes down...hard.
Orion> pre crisis superman with sheer skill
Thor= post crisis Superman (thor only chance to beat superman is because of magic....orion isnt vulnerable to magic)
When thor fought maestro he went full potential and he was dead even with maestro in strength. Thor has been fighting for a long time he is over 2,000 years old and orion is about 200 years old show me where orion really fought someone besides kalibak, ww knock him out with one punch, superman beat his a$$ in legends crossover, Darkseid has been kicking his a$$ from the getgo. You are giving orion little to much credit, thor will own orion a$$ day in and day out. You take orion of his asrto glider he is ****ed and by the way we never use his astro glider in h2h combat. Thor hammer project cosmic engery besides mystical energy orion can't take direct hit from thor's hammer and keep on fighting.
King thor hell will blast orion a$$ into oblivion.
Check out the first page and I listed a ton of people orion beat.
Thor prefers to brawl, always has and always will.
Orion is all about skill, hes stronger than Thor as well.
Orion would take him in skill, he took pre crisis superman while he was in bloodlust, while holding back so he wouldnt kill superman.
Thor w/o magic would get his ass beat down by any superman, especially pre crisis.
In a weapon fight it'd be even, just depends who lets loose first.
Originally posted by long pig
Check out the first page and I listed a ton of people orion beat.Thor prefers to brawl, always has and always will.
Orion is all about skill, hes stronger than Thor as well.Orion would take him in skill, he took pre crisis superman while he was in bloodlust, while holding back so he wouldnt kill superman.
Thor w/o magic would get his ass beat down by any superman, especially pre crisis.
In a weapon fight it'd be even, just depends who lets loose first.
Stronger how?
Skill? Thor has been fighting for a very long time.
This is now Post, Pre-crisis days are over.
Orion has trouble fighting Darksied. What makes you think he can take thor.
Orion can't even beat superman
Superman > Darksied > Orion
Orion will be a better match for Thor, than superman but he would loose.
Originally posted by long pig
Orion couldnt take a full force GF from Thor, nor could Thor take a AF from Orion.With weapons its a toss up.
But H2H Orion is a better fighter, more experienced or not Thor is a brawler, Orion is a stronger and more controlled fighter(i.e martial arts and many forms of other combat) and could out manuever Thor...faux berserk or not...when he does it, Thor goes down...hard.
Orion> pre crisis superman with sheer skill
Thor= post crisis Superman (thor only chance to beat superman is because of magic....orion isnt vulnerable to magic)
Dude, in mighty thor#22 Thor took on Thanos blast with mjolnir and add inthe godforce and blast Thanos over the horizon. in #25 Thanos was powered by the chalice of ruins, the Illumination Stone, Map of All-Ending. Thanos had the power to wipe out all-existance, stars, planets etc. But when Thor attack Thanos, Thanos blast Thor continueously and THOR WITHSTOOD IT!!! AF, with all respect, might not come close to Thanos' blast. And Thor has thousand year of fighting experience. And Thor never goes down easily.
Originally posted by kgkg
Stronger how?
Skill? Thor has been fighting for a very long time.This is now Post, Pre-crisis days are over.
Orion has trouble fighting Darksied. What makes you think he can take thor.
Orion can't even beat superman
Superman > Darksied > Orion
Orion will be a better match for Thor, than superman but he would loose.
No way dude, Superman is the best match for Thor than anybody for DC and vice versa.
Orion has the ability to fight thor beat him hell no. Orion becomes so consume with rage it gets him in trouble hell wonder woman KO his ass out with one punch. Thor will man handle orion, thor is bigger, stronger, faster, more durable than orion, can orion take on thanos in h2h hell f**king no he will get own. Orion gets a little bit to much credit he hasn't really shown us anything that he can beat superman, wonder woman, darkseid besides getting mad and being the son of darkseid doesn't guarantee you can beat everybody.