Thor versus Orion

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor has more raw power than orion, he is the son of a sky-father and elder god Gaea. His godly energies is awesome in h2h combat thor wins easily thor will out last orion Thor fought Zeus in thor annual #8 and fought for months with out getting tired. Thor has fought beings that will b***h slap orion all day, thor knock a super-strong alien being with so much physical force the alien flew out of earth's orbit and out of our solar system journey into mystery #90, thor lifted the midgard serpent over his head with ease and the midgard serpent weighs in million tons range Thor#272. Thor is warrior god and his abilities are beyond orion, If thor cut's lose orion doesn't have a chance in hell of beating him.

Superman = Round about as strong as Mangog.

Orion = Superman

But Moljnir tips the balsnce a bit.

Orion takes it. 🙂

Originally posted by long pig
Orion's stronger than PC Superman.
There is no de-powered post crisis Orion.
Also, Superman beats the new Darkseid, he never got slightly even close to beating the oringinal one, Orion stalemated him.

PC Darkseid>Orion>PC Superman>Thor

In the h2h fight, I'd pick Orion the large majority. He's stronger, faster, smarter and better skilled.

Thor & Orion has had roughly the same ammount of experiece, both are thousands of years old.

🤨 The weapon match is a toss up.

Long pig, I have agree with on some threads but this one is not even close. If you go thru the 60's,70's early 80's thor will own orion the way he was written thor would kill orion, he fight beings like orion for fun.

Thor is over 2,000 years old, where orion is about 300-400 years old in new gods 1998 guide. Thor's hammer is more powerful than the astro glider/force please there is no contest, thor's hammer has shook a whole entire planet and destroyed one also. It crack dopen Exitar brain dom,godforce blast rocked Galactus into retreating in Thor160-162, Thor hammer is pure power greater than the astro glider.

Originally posted by yahman
🤨 🤨Superman = Round about as strong as Mangog.

Orion = Superman

But Moljnir tips the balsnce a bit.

Orion takes it. 🙂

Superman is not equal to Mangog what the f**k are you on. Mangog is physical more powerful than Odin and Thor. Superman has been de-powered where Thor, Mangog,thanos, gladiator, count nefaria (full power), Hyperion are on Pre-Crisis superman & darkseid level they have never been toned down. Thor is a son of a skyfather and a elder god his powers a godly sick, Thor has shown more feats of ability than orion. Thor has fought three of the most powerful celestials exitar,one above all, arishem and held his own. Fought a full powered galactus and force him to retreat when Thor hit him with the god-force blast. Thor fought Exitar the 20,000 tall celestail with his mystic armor, belt of strength, iron gauntlets he hit exitar with so much force from the hammer the nearby mountain where crumbling to dust from the sher force of the hammer he cracked open the celestial armor and punch giant size hole in exitar brain dome the most powerful celestail (Thor#387-389) Exitar was so impress he created a clone for Thor in respect of him.

Orion can't even beat his father only once and that was post-crisis darkseid. Thor has fought his father odin, zeus, celestails, classic hercules, Mangog, destroyer, ego the living planet, galactus,ulik, Atum the god-eater/ demogorge both forms, kurse, juggernaut.

If Orion fought those guys they will be picking him up his corpse of the ground.

Wow, you just really made no sense.

Thor didn't "rock" Galactus at all, G' barely noticed the blast has it BOUNCED OFF HIS SHIELD.

He just left because he was near death from starvation.

. Thor has fought his father odin, zeus, celestails, classic hercules, Mangog, destroyer, ego the living planet, galactus,ulik, Atum the god-eater/ demogorge both forms, kurse, juggernaut.

thor's hammer has shook a whole entire planet and destroyed one also.

In a h2h fight, Orion is stronger/faster/heals better/smarter and a better fighter.
I'll admit that Mjolnir is >astroforce but doesn't mean Thor would take the majority.

Originally posted by long pig
Wow, you just really made no sense.

Thor didn't "rock" Galactus at all, G' barely noticed the blast has it BOUNCED OFF HIS SHIELD.

He just left because he was near death from starvation.

And he didn't beat a single one of them.

Great, so has the Astro Force. In fact, the AF has pushed back a universe destroying beam with it's own power. So did thor hammer and even more. 😉

🤨 In a h2h fight, Orion is stronger/faster/heals better/smarter and a better fighter.
I'll admit that Mjolnir is >astroforce but doesn't mean Thor would take the majority.

Orion is not a better fighter than thor, thor is full blooded god has more raw power. Thor has be trained since he was born from his father and other great warriors of asgard. Thor is a smart being him damself, thor feats of stength and abilities is far greater than orion. In WW III orion was drifting in space after mageddon f**ked him up he was dying motherbox couldn't healed him fast enough aztek saved his a$$. Thor has survive from a dooms day bom that destroyed a planet. Thor durable is far greater than orion and stronger. JIM 90# knocking a being out of the solar system with so much physical force. Orion can't even beat his sorry a$$ father.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Superman is not equal to Mangog what the f**k are you on. Mangog is physical more powerful than Odin and Thor. Superman has been de-powered where Thor, Mangog,thanos, gladiator, count nefaria (full power), Hyperion are on Pre-Crisis superman & darkseid level they have never been toned down. Thor is a son of a skyfather and a elder god his powers a godly sick, Thor has shown more feats of ability than orion. Thor has fought three of the most powerful celestials exitar,one above all, arishem and held his own. Fought a full powered galactus and force him to retreat when Thor hit him with the god-force blast. Thor fought Exitar the 20,000 tall celestail with his mystic armor, belt of strength, iron gauntlets he hit exitar with so much force from the hammer the nearby mountain where crumbling to dust from the sher force of the hammer he cracked open the celestial armor and punch giant size hole in exitar brain dome the most powerful celestail (Thor#387-389) Exitar was so impress he created a clone for Thor in respect of him.

Orion can't even beat his father only once and that was post-crisis darkseid. Thor has fought his father odin, zeus, celestails, classic hercules, Mangog, destroyer, ego the living planet, galactus,ulik, Atum the god-eater/ demogorge both forms, kurse, juggernaut.

If Orion fought those guys they will be picking him up his corpse of the ground.

Odin has beaten Mangog, So has Thor.

Superman = Above Thor.

Thor was owned by the Three Celestials.

As you said Moljnir hit Exitar, not Thor. Crumbling a mountain to Dust is little compared to the planet moving strength that Post Crisis Superman has demonstrated on several ocassions.

According to some Sources Orion is stronger than Supes.

Ssuperman = about as strong as Mangog.

🙂

Originally posted by yahman
Odin has beaten Mangog, So has Thor.

Superman = Above Thor.

Thor was owned by the Three Celestials.

As you said Moljnir hit Exitar, not Thor. Crumbling a mountain to Dust is little compared to the planet moving strength that Post Crisis Superman has demonstrated on several ocassions.

According to some Sources Orion is stronger than Supes.

🤨 again Ssuperman = about as strong as Mangog.

🙂

Mangog will rape superman

Originally posted by the Darkone
Mangog will rape superman

Seeing that just you've come out with such an irrelevent, desperate and ill whitted response, (aswell as beeing a liitle low on the taste side).

I'll take it as my win 🙂

Originally posted by yahman
Seeing that just you've come out with such an irrelevent, desperate and ill whitted response, (aswell as beeing a liitle low on the taste side).

🤨 I'll take it as my win 🙂

I don't think so.

Thor powers are great a full potential thor cutting lose will kill orion. Thor hammer is powerful when he was striking exitar it was his godly energies/strength going threw the hammer, the hammer feeds off his godly energy and strength increasing the power of the blow. If anything abouy orion is that he has ben written better than thor and that's about it. Remember thor is still on pre-crisis superma level and more powerful, Thor has done physical things that orion hasn't done only dreams about. Thor speed is blinding flying 3x times the speed of light, and runnning at great speeds even hela couldn't see him, she said his speed was beyond comprehension.

Originally posted by the Darkone
I don't think so.

Thor powers are great a full potential thor cutting lose will kill orion. Thor hammer is powerful when he was striking exitar it was his godly energies/strength going threw the hammer, the hammer feeds off his godly energy and strength increasing the power of the blow. If anything abouy orion is that he has ben written better than thor and that's about it. Remember thor is still on pre-crisis superma level and more powerful, Thor has done physical things that orion hasn't done only dreams about. Thor speed is blinding flying 3x times the speed of light, and runnning at great speeds even hela couldn't see him, she said his speed was beyond comprehension.

The hammer does not Feed off his Godly energies.This is your Fabrication. (ever thought about working for the Daily Mail)

Thor is no where near a Pre Crisis Superman level. The only Feat he has on a planetary level is the Midgard Serpent. I have alot Skeptesism when concerning this Feat. E.G. why didn't it crush the plannet?

The closest he has come to matching this was when he moved the Avengers Hydro base. E.G. the size of an Island.

Thor = > Count Nefaria

Count Nefaria = maxed out lifting a mountain

Orion = Post CrisisSuperman strength

Posts Cisis Superman Strength = Moving celestial size objects

Celstial Objects = < Than mountains and Islands and mystical Serpents that Live on the surface of the plannet.

3x speed of light? Dont make me laugh. 🙂 😄

Originally posted by yahman
The hammer does not Feed off his Godly energies.This is your Fabrication. (ever thought about working for the Daily Mail)

🤨 Thor is no where near a Pre Crisis Superman level. The only Feat he has on a planetary level is the Midgard Serpent. I have alot Skeptesism when concerning this Feat. E.G. why didn't it crush the plannet?

The closest he has come to matching this was when he moved the Avengers Hydro base. E.G. the size of an Island.

Thor = > Count Nefaria

Count Nefaria = maxed out lifting a mountain

Orion = Post CrisisSuperman strength

Posts Cisis Superman Strength = Moving celestial size objects

Celstial Objects = < Than mountains and Islands and mystical Serpents that Live on the surface of the plannet.

3x speed of light? Dont make me laugh. 🙂 😄

Thor flies at 3x speed of light with the hammer. It's been stated in thor #185

Count Nefaia (full powered) is on pre-crisis superman level. Count Nefaria took a blow from thor hammer and wasn't hurt at all. And Count nefaria has defeated thor badly.

Thor can't fly.

The hammer pulls him really fast, but he doesn't have that type of reflexes to react at light speed.

He can't reach close to lightspeed on Earth, only in space.

Thor has proven over the years he can beat anybody on any given day even Orion. Thor would absorb the astro-force through the hammer and channel it back 1000 fold at orion killing him in the process.

Thor 7/10

it could reasonably be argued that the astroforce is greater than mjollnir. it is a direct manifestation of the source. in dc it is the source that gave the gods their power and as a manifestation of god's power, it would be above, well, . . . anything. the only thing holding it back is orion's control over it. thor's control of mjollnir may well be > orion's control of astroforce, but the 2 powers are both VERY versatile. skills are about equal, strength is about equal.

i think without weapons of any kind and no motherbox, orion takes maybe 6/10 (no mb means nothing to keep orion's rage in check). both fighting to max: i'll say thor 5.5/10 based on the longer history, hence greater record of feats.

this would be a better battle than thor v supes imo.

Yeah. I don't know if in a fist fight that Orion would defeat Thor. Physically he is equal to immortal Hercules with his strength, as seen when the pulled the Midgard Serpent off of earth, and the armwrestling match the pulled the planet out of orbit. That, and he's got hundreds upon hundreds of years fighting experience under his belt. I think that he has the edge, though it's close. Also, Thor definately has the smarts in this battle because of his college education and fact he has a doctorate.

With weapons, I think the versatility is tipped in the favor of Thor on this one, mostly because of the energy absorption. However, it's still pretty close. I'm going to say Thor wins this 6.5 or 7/10 times, each fight being really close.

I agree with you though Leonidas. This would be a much better battle than Superman vs Thor, mostly because that debate is versatility vs speed 95% of the time, with neither side giving leeway.

Wow so many misconceptions about the potential of Orion, and the power of the Astro Force. The Astro Force is much much greater than all of the energies of the Asgard dimension/universe combined(including the Odin Force). If Orion has half as much control with it as Thor does with his hammer, no one can stand up to him.

I laugh at the people who think Thor can channel/absorb the Astro Force with mjollnir. The Astro Force stems DIRECTLY from the Source, the embodiment of ALL the energies in the DCU Multiverse.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor has proven over the years he can beat anybody on any given day even Orion. Thor would absorb the astro-force through the hammer and channel it back 1000 fold at orion killing him in the process.

Thor 7/10

Never - http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=399713&highlight=AStro+Force

Pretty sure you're assuming.

No actually in hand to hand Orion would roast Thor 8/10. He's stronger, faster, better fighter, would heal from every thing that Thor could hit him with. with weapons its about even but id give it to Orion 7/10 his Astro Force its impeccably strong. and the MB would speed his healing further, and find Thors weakness.

With weapons, Thor beats Orion the majority of the time. Mjolnir's just too versatile. I'm not sure that Orion's Astro Force is above the Silver Surfer's blasts, which Thor can absorb with Mjolnir.

HTH, Orion's definitely the better fighter, but Thor's fought many foes who've been stronger than him. I think this could go either way, but I'd give an edge to Orion.

HTH w/ both Thor and Orion going bererk, I'd give it to Thor. WM Thor seems nearly invulnerable and beyond the strength of most top-tiers.