Battle of the Supermen

Originally posted by derrick24
you all hate saying that superman will lose a fight. i think hyperion and gladiator would destroy him. oh and also when you said that hyperion is a superhero you have him mixed up from the timeline of him being called supreme, hes the hero.

I have no idea where you getting this information. If its Exiles then its completely untrue. Hyperion was in the Squadron Supreme. And regularly fought with the Avengers side by side.

This fight concerns mainstream Hyperion anyhoo. Not Exiles Hyperion.

Originally posted by armandovalles
Shazam!

VS

Superman

VS

Hyperion

VS

Gladiator

Who wins?

Where's Majestic?

Originally posted by Sentry
Wasn't Supreme Image's version of Superman?

Yes. He has it confused.

i got this off of marvels bio web site about gladiator to prove that he based off of precrisis superman.

Height: 6 ft. 6 in.
Weight: 595 lbs.
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Dark Blue

Strength Level: Gladiator possesses Class 100 strength, enabling him to lift (press) over 100 tons. The uppermost limit of Gladiator’s strength is unknown. He has proved capable of uprooting the entire 35 floor original Baxter Building, and has boasted to be able to move planets. Possibly Gladiator employs technical means to boost his strength enough to lift (press) beyond what others in the Class 100 strength category can lift.

Known Superhuman Powers: Gladiator is the most powerful known member of the Imperial Guard. In addition to his extraordinary strength, he is virtually invulnerable, and has survived an explosion of nearly nova force uninjured. However, he is vulnerable to certain unspecified wavelengths of radiation.

Gladiator can fly at speeds rivaling those of starships, and can achieve faster than light speeds in hyperspace. He can survive unprotected in the vacuum of outer space, and apparently either does not need to breath or can survive for long periods of time (as when he flies through outer space) without breathing.

Gladiator can project intense heat, possibly infrared radiation, in beams from his eyes. This heat is said to reach temperatures comparable to those produced by stars.

Gladiator himself has claimed to be capable of moving planets and flying through the hearts of stars

Thanks whirly.
Draco is right about Exiles being a different reality. That Hyperion is nulled sorry to say.

Supreme Power is JMS version of the Hyperion/Squadron Supreme story its a Marvel Maxx imprint. Supreme is not Hyperion and has nothing to do with the Squadron Supreme which is what Supreme Power is about my friend. Hey if you want a laugh check out my Supes Sentry thread its not what you think and Supes could lose easily.

That's all true. However his weakness is his self-confidence. Which is way he gets his handed to him regularly.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
Supreme Power is JMS version of the Hyperion/Squadron Supreme story its a Marvel Maxx imprint. Supreme is not Hyperion and has nothing to do with the Squadron Supreme which is what Supreme Power is about my friend. Hey if you want a laugh check out my Supes Sentry thread its not what you think and Supes could lose easily.

Oh. THAT series. Read a couple.

Anyhoo. This is MAINSTREAM Hyperion that was part of the Squadron Supreme.

He'd go down easily.

Squadron Sinister I think had Supreme in it first though as the GM's plot

I still think Apollo, Mr M, Miracleman, Nefaria, Vartox, Monel/Valour could all be included

If their included don't forget Sentry.

you are correct hyperion was an ally with the avenger it was his evil cloned (looking at the comic now) that went against the avengers but i still give hyperion a win over superman the guy is consider an eternal. Superman has no way of beating him or gladiator. In x-men when he was toying with cannonball until canonball happen to run into a new power he stated that he was going to punch cannonball to the sun with a single hit. I think that if that would have connected cannonball would have exploded but if he hit superman with it which he does have the capability since he moves faster than light speed he will ko superman, if the hit is in the head he might kill him.

Hyperion got beat by the Thing and lesser foes. He's not that great.

He would go down first.

Gladiator IS capable of all these feats. However his self-confidence governs his powers. And unfortunately this can be his undoing. Which is way he gets owned regularly. And saying he can hit someone to the sun in a single punch doesn't mean he CAN.

hyperion in the exiles series has the same powers as he alter ego does what would make the outcome any different. Can you all tell me a way superman will beat hyperion because anything physical isnt going to work and lunging him into space isnt going to work either. But i can think of a way he could beat superman, fight him until his solar energy wears out and then 1. fry him with his beam or 2. punch a hole in him. Superman needs to stick to fighting batman and leave this to gladiator, shazam and hyperion.

well from many sources it states that:

"when Gladiator sets his mind to something, you better believe he'll do it no matter what it takes!"

Hyperion in the Exiles was MUCH more powerful than the mainstream Hyperion. Mainstream Hyperion couldn't even take down Thor. Thor kicked his ass several times. What makes you think he could own Galactus? Mainstream Hyperion does not equal Exiles Hyperion.

Hyperion would get owned by Superman. Especially current Superman. His powers are increasing by the day. Especially since Hyperion is a very poor fighter and he is very rash.

Originally posted by armandovalles
well from many sources it states that:

"when Gladiator sets his mind to something, you better believe he'll do it no matter what it takes!"

And that didn't work on Cannonball did it?

It wasn't a clone th squadron supreme where from a different reality to th squadron sinister

so a guy who can move planets on a regular basis cant punch anyone to the sun. Answer this question could precrisis superman do it. Almost forgot in that same comic it stated that gladiator has the power do to anything once he put his mind to it. Also when his confidense is shacken he is still invulnerable, it takes a combination of lack of will and radiation to get the job done like in fantastic four he was knock out because he was fighting the skrulls ( that posing as the x-men) who was using radiation thru the entire fight then sue dropped his confidence when she used her forcefield when a temporary k/o came behind that another fight was with hulk. The entire fight he was getting exposed to radiation which gave hulk the win. Radiation is the key factor not his will, the only thing that happens when his will drop his power drop which if that happen it would put his strength on par with them since he based off of precrisis.

First off Gladiator is SAID to have moved planets. Noone actually saw him do it. There's no comical reference for him doing do.

His self-confidence IS the key. Cassandra Nova knew this. Which is why he was reduced to the state of a whimpering child.

Superman and Shazam stand a fair chance of winning. However Gladiator can also lose as well. Gladiator certainly won't knock him out with one punch. If you think this would happen, then you're a little ignorant of DC comics.