Battle of the Supermen

Originally posted by Draco69
And that didn't work on Cannonball did it?

the reason it didnt work is because in that episode if you read the book cannonball hacked into a new power that allows him to absorb physical powers and send it back to the enemy with the same strength. trust me if cannonball use that same trick on superman, it wouldnt have been any different than it would for gladiator. It might would have been worse since in superman current books he is bleeding and getting cut. And hes invulnerable HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Invulnerability doesn't nesscarily mean complete invulnerability. Obviously something was powerful enough to get past his forcefield.

Another option for victory is for Superman to have Shazam teleport them to the Rock of Eternity and the Sun. Their powers would be dramatically boosted.

Originally posted by Draco69
Another option for victory is for Superman to have Shazam teleport them to the Rock of Eternity and the Sun. Their powers would be dramatically boosted.

That would be overkill. Not necessary imo.

Originally posted by Draco69
First off Gladiator is SAID to have moved planets. Noone actually saw him do it. There's no comical reference for him doing do.

His self-confidence IS the key. Cassandra Nova knew this. Which is why he was reduced to the state of a whimpering child.

Superman and Shazam stand a fair chance of winning. However Gladiator can also lose as well. Gladiator certainly won't knock him out with one punch. If you think this would happen, then you're a little ignorant of DC comics.

What about the batman/superman series where hawkman knocks superman out, I know he had a special weapon but i think that gladiator punch would be just as hard.

Draco - you're right about Supes' powers slowly returning.

If it was Pre-Crisis, then this would be a whitewash.

But with Characters as they are, I'd say that it'd come down to Supes and Shazam.

Gladiator doesn't like fighting people of his own league. A nice punch in the jaw from Supes or Shaz would send his confidence plummeting.

Hyperion is a no brainer (cos he's the mainstream version lol!)

Shaz is magically based so he might take Supes...

Originally posted by derrick24
What about the batman/superman series where hawkman knocks superman out, I know he had a special weapon but i think that gladiator punch would be just as hard.

It was a MAGIC weapon. Powerful enough to destroy a continent. I don't trust Jeph Loeb's writing. Especially with how Batman easily beat Lady Shiva.

Special weapon meaning MAGICAL? If so, then you need to say no more.

To me i think superman is the weakest link but hes also the smartest which makes him a challenge because as it has been stated many time shazam is superman superior.

From the way that it looks we have a lot of superman fan and noone has still gave me a way that superman would beat hyperion and dont say a punch when it is stated that he is cannot be harmed by any physical means.

As for the Sentry, Sentry no one really knows what he can do till we see in new Avengers a little more we know nothing. His mini really told us little his powers don't even make sense. A serum with the power of a million exploding suns what the hell. .5 of a sec ahead of time?????? lets leave it to Bendis

Shazam is by no means Superman's superior. Except for the magic thing.

Why? Wonder Woman has the strength of Gaea greater than that of Hercules. Shazam has the strength of Hercules. Wonder Woman has speed greater than that of Mercury. Shazam has the speed of mercury.

SOOOOO. By using logic, we all know that Superman is superior to Wonder Woman. And by the above, Wonder Woman is superior to Shazam. Thus....

Superman is by no means the weak link. Hyperion is. Dumb as doorbell. Doesn't fight smartly. The list goes on...

Originally posted by derrick24
From the way that it looks we have a lot of superman fan and noone has still gave me a way that superman would beat hyperion and dont say a punch when it is stated that he is cannot be harmed by any physical means.

No its quite the opposite. You just another Superman hater. With complete ignorance of what Superman has done and is capable of.

And Hyperion would lose. Easily. He got beat by Thing. Unconscious. Please.

Originally posted by derrick24
From the way that it looks we have a lot of superman fan and noone has still gave me a way that superman would beat hyperion and dont say a punch when it is stated that he is cannot be harmed by any physical means.

He lost to Hulk in Defeders first series #13
It was the Defenders vs. Squadron Sinister. Nuff said.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
As for the Sentry, Sentry no one really knows what he can do till we see in new Avengers a little more we know nothing. His mini really told us little his powers don't even make sense. A serum with the power of a million exploding suns what the hell. .5 of a sec ahead of time?????? lets leave it to Bendis

He's most likely depowered. It wouldn't be fun to have a person above Silver Surfer on the Avengers. The New Avengers wouldn't have any challenges. Not even people like Nefaria or Ultron. Besides if Sentry exists then so must the Void...

shazam lost to Supes in Kingdom Come Supes could have crushed Billy's Jaw that was after Billy fought real dirty. Hyperion is no match for either Supes or Cap Marvel and Gladiator is a bt sad look at operation Galactic Storm.

Iagree Draco he will be depowered and I suspect the void will be an early story arc.

lets say superman versus venom since him and spiderman did get owned by venom. And if gladiator is based so much off of his confidence he wouldnt be leading the shiar if he was to be defeated so easily he has fought being alot more powerful then superman and shazam- silver surfer, thor, thanos, and his major enemy is the skrulls and the majority of the fights he owned them. The guy alway fight team or people who has the power to conquer worlds and give me the issue where thing overcame hyperion.

And Superman owned Thor. Please. Crossovers are bull.

And Superman has bested foes alot more powerful than Gladiator. Imperiux, Maggedon, Asmodel, etc.

Supes owned Thor derrick.

Draco most crossovers are bull the JLA/AVENGERS was a classic. It was fantastic and........... kept the characters power continuity exactly right. It made some interesting comparisons of the two universes. The heroes here seem weaker (reference to the marvel universe) They have to fight twice as hard. Thor was owned.