Alternate versions should not be counted the same as Original versions.
In the Mutant X universe.....
Storm - had super strength, able to morph into a bat, wolf or mist.
Gambit - also had super strength, able to hypnotize others through eye contact, invulnerable to most forms of permanent injury, and drains the blood of others through his fangs.
Now would we compare these characters to that of their original counterparts? I think not. Thats why they call them alternate universes folks.
Thor has beaten Gladiator and last year Superman beat Thor.
I think it's a 50/50 chance between Gladiator and Superman.
Superman vs Hyperion, Superman has higher fighting skills than Hyperion. Superman is used to fighting guys at his power-level, such as Bizarro.
Superman against Captain Marvel, again Superman wins. Captain Marvel has never beaten Superman. In Kingdom Come he was giving Supes a hard time, but didn't beat him.
Superman vs Sentry, despite his alleged power, Sentry has yet to show the type of world altering abilities that Supes has. Sentry also has the huge drawbacks of A.) deriving his powers from a serum (they wear off periodically, I guess) and B.) his evil doppleganger the Void coming into existence and coming to look for him if he uses his powers too long.
Superman doesn't have those problems to deal with, so there's an edge right there.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Alternate versions should not be counted the same as Original versions.
In the Mutant X universe.....Storm - had super strength, able to morph into a bat, wolf or mist.
Gambit - also had super strength, able to hypnotize others through eye contact, invulnerable to most forms of permanent injury, and drains the blood of others through his fangs.
Now would we compare these characters to that of their original counterparts? I think not. Thats why they call them alternate universes folks.
have you ever read exiles, in exiles everybody powers are the same. Gambit only had the power to charge cards and storm control weather she was invulnerable nothing added.
magneto had magnetic powers, spiderman climb walls and agile and wolverine healing factor and adamantium nothing added. Everybody in exiles had the same powers nothing different nothing added but when it comes to hyperion its a different story because he is going against superman, hyperion has approved according to marvel.
Originally posted by derrick24
im am very persistant but you all arent giving me info to change my mind you all keep bring up the hulk and hyperion fight, how long ago was that you all hate to admit that he has gotten an upgrade. how long have it been since you seen hyperion in a comic, its been a while because the guy isnt famous so if you were to look at the current hyperion you cannot help but to base him off of comics that you see him in which is exiles. How do you know if marvel havent gave him an upgrade, you dont, you are going by what you think. The only thing that is different about exiles is that they are hopping thru different realities where people think different and dont remember them but the powers are the same including when they met wolverine, he still had a healing factor and razor sharp claws and magneto was on asteroid m and he still had magnetic powers. Marvel gave hyperion an upgrade deal with it, i know it hurts but he has become uber powerful. If you can give me a recent comic in mainstream where hyperion in it and his power isnt the same as the exile version then hyperion vs superman.....hyperion 10/10.
*Sigh* Thy ignorance is amusing yet annoying
EXILES Hyperion is the one who killed Galactus
REGULAR Hyperion got whupped by Thor, Hulk and the Thing
What's the difference between mainstream and alternate you ask? Well, they're ALTERNATE for one thing. In one reality, Storm is a vampire. Mainstream she's not. In another reality, Captain America is vampire. Mainstream he is not. In another reality, Rogue has the powers of the Super-Skrull. Mainstream she does not.
One reality Hyperion is uber-powerful. Mainstream he is not.
Hyperion loses thy Hyperion fanboy. If there is such thing.
Originally posted by whirlysplat
Derrick in that case like Draco I will use Superman Prime with the GL ring as a power upgrade and Hyperion loses.
And what i was saying is that CURRENT hyperion has got an upgrade no pre, pre would lose to superman because he wasnt familiar with his powers everything was new to him but current will own superman 2 page fight. You make good point but you are also adding things to. And since we are using pre and were using when each character 1st came out lets use the superman who couldnt fly just leap tall buildings and only had the strength to lift elephants, since we're using when hyperion 1st came out.
Originally posted by derrick24
have you ever read exiles, in exiles everybody powers are the same. Gambit only had the power to charge cards and storm control weather she was invulnerable nothing added.
magneto had magnetic powers, spiderman climb walls and agile and wolverine healing factor and adamantium nothing added. Everybody in exiles had the same powers nothing different nothing added but when it comes to hyperion its a different story because he is going against superman, hyperion has approved according to marvel.
And Spider-Man was Carnage. And Deadpool was a cyborg. And Storm had mystical powers. Please.
EVERYBODY in Exiles was different. Thunderbird. Mimic. Namora. Sasquatch. Please.
Originally posted by derrick24
And what i was saying is that CURRENT hyperion has got an upgrade no pre, pre would lose to superman because he wasnt familiar with his powers everything was new to him but current will own superman 2 page fight. You make good point but you are also adding things to. And since we are using pre and were using when each character 1st came out lets use the superman who couldnt fly just leap tall buildings and only had the strength to lift elephants, since we're using when hyperion 1st came out.
EXILES Hyperion has an "upgrade" or whatever you want to call it. CURRENT Hyperion is back in his universe presumably fighting for justice with the Squadron Supreme.
Pre-Crisis Superman would lose to Hyperion? 😂 😂
He destroyed a galaxy with a sneeze! He lobbed planets as attacks.
Superman Prime was astonishingly powerful.
Newbies. So little knowledge.
i kinda dont like hyperion but i know his limits and i also know all of the other characters on this sight limits. Like i stated before you never read exiles because you keep bringing up characters being werewolves and vampire. Go to a nearby comic store pick up an exile book and just take 20 30 minutes and read over them because every character in exiles comics powers are the same the x-men avengers everybody, exile comic isnt based off fighting the kind of mutants youre talking about before mimic or any of the exile met hyperion they new about him and his power so when they fought him everything they knew came to surface, hyperion didnt turn into a vampire or a werewolf what exiles are trying to do is bring the universe back to normal, just like when mimic ran into wolverine everything that he remember about wolverine was there. Everybody powers are the same including phoenix the only thing that changed is that hyperion has gotten an upgrade.
Originally posted by derrick24
i kinda dont like hyperion but i know his limits and i also know all of the other characters on this sight limits. Like i stated before you never read exiles because you keep bringing up characters being werewolves and vampire. Go to a nearby comic store pick up an exile book and just take 20 30 minutes and read over them because every character in exiles comics powers are the same the x-men avengers everybody, exile comic isnt based off fighting the kind of mutants youre talking about before mimic or any of the exile met hyperion they new about him and his power so when they fought him everything they knew came to surface, hyperion didnt turn into a vampire or a werewolf what exiles are trying to do is bring the universe back to normal, just like when mimic ran into wolverine everything that he remember about wolverine was there. Everybody powers are the same including phoenix the only thing that changed is that hyperion has gotten an upgrade.
Honey. I've been reading Exiles since it came out. (Wish they hadn't killed Sunfire though)
You simply don't get it. SOME characters remain the same. OTHERS don't. There is no "normal". Some characters have different powers. Some characters have different allegiances. And some characters are far more powerful or weaker than they normally are.
EXILES Hyperion is uber-powerful.
MAINSTREAM Hyperion is semi-powerful.
EXILES Hyperion is evil
MAINSTREAM Hyperion is good.
EXILES Hyperion killed Thor.
MAINSTREAM Hyperion is Thor's *****.
No comparision. Get into your head. You're making yourself look like a fool.
Originally posted by Draco69
EXILES Hyperion has an "upgrade" or whatever you want to call it. CURRENT Hyperion is back in his universe presumably fighting for justice with the Squadron Supreme.Pre-Crisis Superman would lose to Hyperion? 😂 😂
you didnt read my message right draco i said lets use the superman who could only leap tall building and had only the strength to lift a elephant, i have to get off this sight because it seem like none of you all can read you might be about 11 or 12 because youre not making good points. Sorry to be rude, just being honest
He destroyed a galaxy with a sneeze! He lobbed planets as attacks.
Superman Prime was astonishingly powerful.
Newbies. So little knowledge.
I know a great deal of superman prime like when he fought hulk and he knocked hulk thru a building and he thought that he koed hulk but hulk punched him out of the city and superman stated that, that punch was one of the hardest punch he felt and he flew back and stood there while hulk continuously punching him and he saw that was was being brainwashed and he used his superspeed and grabbed the device behind his ear that was controlling him. Would like for me to tell you more comics behind precrisis superman because i can go all day from the time he fought doom and a time that a tidle wave was going to destroy a bridge full of people.
Originally posted by derrick24
I know a great deal of superman prime like when he fought hulk and he knocked hulk thru a building and he thought that he koed hulk but hulk punched him out of the city and superman stated that, that punch was one of the hardest punch he felt and he flew back and stood there while hulk continuously punching him and he saw that was was being brainwashed and he used his superspeed and grabbed the device behind his ear that was controlling him. Would like for me to tell you more comics behind precrisis superman because i can go all day from the time he fought doom and a time that a tidle wave was going to destroy a bridge full of people.
I rest my case. You know nothing about Superman. The above statement is so utterly ridiculous I laughed my ass off. 😂
Superman Prime isn't Pre-Crisis Superman, my man.
*Sigh* Newbies.... 🙄
My point is Draco, I suspect my knowledge is on a par with almost anyones when it comes to comics, not always issues but I was reading Moebius in the seventies when it was black and white. I got 2000AD 1 pre Dredd. But I would never put you down because you had not read these like you did derrick. I like you disagree with him on this and I agree your argument and mine is stronger but there is no need to 1 state all new to this forum know nothing or 2 call him annoying. Thats my "points" my friend.
ok answer this question since you consider hyperion so week, why would they choose him to be the uber power character. Do you want to know why because they know of hyperion capabilities, hyperion has been put to the next level and can you please give me a current 2004 or 2005 comic of hyperion in it and him being a week character instead of the uber power character that marvel has gave him because from this site i thought that were using current characters anyway and if you cant find that comic then i will be glad to accept the mark that marvel has left on hyperion and accept the upgrade that he got just like superman gets his upgrade in about every comic.