Battle of the Supermen

Originally posted by derrick24
in some comics they have him looking great and in others he look horrible, and hyperion constantly uses his eye beams and i think each time they would connect and it would render superman helpless. Infra red is like kryptonite to superman give me an issue where he overcome kryptonite and infrared waves then i would be more convinced and i also think that gladiator and hyperion could pull the same feats, i even think that gladiator could do it better since he has no strength limitation.

Where the hell did you get the idea that Infra-Red vision is like kryptonite to Superman? Please.

The thing is Hyperion hasn't done ANYTHING close to the feats Superman has done. Assuming he can isn't evidence.

Supes would crush the Supes copies as they are only copies

Sentry will kick Supes a$$.

Sentry, we saw him do nothing. The false history was a publicity stunt lol. He was created to be Marvels attempt at the Miracleman territory. He was not done as well though. MM was classic Alan Moore remember. I love Sentry as well. Marvel needed Superman!!!!!

Maybe. We will wait and see. As I said it doesn't make any sense for A Galactus level character to be on a team with mostly street-level characters.

Originally posted by derrick24
in some comics they have him looking great and in others he look horrible, and hyperion constantly uses his eye beams and i think each time they would connect and it would render superman helpless. Infra red is like kryptonite to superman give me an issue where he overcome kryptonite and infrared waves then i would be more convinced and i also think that gladiator and hyperion could pull the same feats, i even think that gladiator could do it better since he has no strength limitation.

In Adventures of Superman #595 -- Superman resists Darkseid's Omega Beams.

I dont think Hyperion or Gladiators beams can contend with the Omega Beams.

when people on this sight say mainstream and alternate they say that it is completely different when in actuality there powers are based off of each other. Theyre putting words in comic writer mouth like them saying that hyperion on exiles was different from the mainstream when in actuality the writer got all there attributes from the mainstream and like all characters they get a power boost and thats all that actually happen to hyperion and if he wanted to do the same feats that he did in exiles he would do it in mainstream. Hyperion is Hyperion and thats what the writer wrote in exiles and when the people on this site show me that the writer stated that he is going to make hyperion uber powerful then they are more of a lye than anyone is on this site because if you were too look at hyperion biography it simply states that he is an eternal who hasnt fully tapped into his complete powers which could have happened now since it has been awhile from the last time hes been in a comic. He could have tapped into more of his power.

An easy response:

Mainstream Hyperion got his ass kicked by Hulk, Thor and the Thing.

Alternate Hyperion killed Galactus.

And you say they're same people?

derrick Hyperion or at least the original Hyperion was not an Eternal thats a fact. He was the last survivor (like Superman) of his world. It even had a Krypton type name and in the Defenders circa early eigties he could be killed by a Kryptonite knockoff the Overmind had.

Originally posted by Draco69
An easy response:

Mainstream Hyperion got his ass kicked by Hulk, Thor and the Thing.

Alternate Hyperion killed Galactus.

And you say they're same people?

Where are you getting your info saying that exile hyperion is different from mainstream because as they always do comics give power boost and since hyperion didnt come close in tapping into his power then i think the writer made it possible for that to happen and i think that its going to apply for the mainstream also. Dont change what the writer has done, just deal with it hyperion has a upgrade and with this upgrade he is going to destroy superman and what im going to do is go to marveldirectory and im going to give you proof that it states that he hasnt completely tapped into his power and what i want you to do is show me where the writer stated that this is the uber power hyperion.

derrick calm down mate.

Originally posted by whirlysplat
derrick Hyperion or at least the original Hyperion was not an Eternal thats a fact. He was the last survivor (like Superman) of his world. It even had a Krypton type name and in the Defenders circa early eigties he could be killed by a Kryptonite knockoff the Overmind had.

You are correct he is from an exploding planet just like superman but the rest of the info im going to give will prove hes an eternal.

Source of Superhuman Powers: Specialized development of certain attributes of the race of human offshoots known as Eternals, of which he is the sole survivor on the Squadron's Earth
Personal Weaponry: none
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Origin: Zhib-Ran was born of the cross-dimensional world of Yttrium, a trans-quantum realm of non-Einsteinian physics sub-atomically accessible to Earth. A space explorer by profession, Zhib-Ran was offworld when a dimensional rift close to his home planet was bombarded by the extradimensional energy of the first atom split by an Earth-made cyclotron. The rift was over the surface of the planet and the intersecting beam caused Yttrium to explode. Bathed in the strange energy of his explding planet, Zhib-Ran was endowed withvast physical powers far beyond that of his kind. Drifting helplessly in the void, Zhib-Ran wad discovered by the Grandmaster, one of the Elders of the Universe. The Grandmaster brought him into Earth's dimension (where he was given the relative stature of an Earthman) to be used as a pawn in one of the cosmic gamesman's tournaments. The Grandmaster named him Hyperion (after the Titan in Greek mythology), gave him a distinctive uniform, and introduced him to his fellow players, the Squadron Sinister. At the game's end, the Grandmaster granted his pawns their freedom, and the Squadron elected to remain together for a time to further their common goals. Hyperion blamed the Earth for the destruction of his homeworld and swore vengeance. After a number of defeats by the Defenders and Avengers, the Squadron disbanded (Nighthawk had left earlier to join the Defenders). Hyperion was eventually contacted by representatives of the Roxxon Oil Company, wh owished to enlist his serviecs. Rosson's Dimensional Research Division demonstrated to Hyperion that while his dimensional world had indeed been destroyed, identitcal divergent counterparts to it still existed. If he worked for them for a short period of time, they would send him back home. He agreed and his first assignment was to fetch the Amazonian super-woman Thundra, also a Roxxon agent for a brief time. Thundra had been offered the same bargain as Hyperion. Getting to know the Amazonian, Hyperion fell in love with her and chose to accompany her to her homeworld rather than return to his own.

directly from marvel

Originally posted by derrick24
Where are you getting your info saying that exile hyperion is different from mainstream because as they always do comics give power boost and since hyperion didnt come close in tapping into his power then i think the writer made it possible for that to happen and i think that its going to apply for the mainstream also. Dont change what the writer has done, just deal with it hyperion has a upgrade and with this upgrade he is going to destroy superman and what im going to do is go to marveldirectory and im going to give you proof that it states that he hasnt completely tapped into his power and what i want you to do is show me where the writer stated that this is the uber power hyperion.

You're persistant I'll give you that.

You still cannot differiantiate Regular Hyperion to Exiles Hyperion. REGULAR Hyperion got beat by Thor, Hulk and the Thing. EXILES Hyperion killed Galactus. They are by no means the same people. If REGULAR Hyperion hasn't tapped into his full powers yet. Then what makes you think he will in this fight?

You're a funny guy. ALTERNATE REALITY DOES NOT EQUAL REGULAR REALITY.

Your own words " think the writer made it possible for that to happen and i think that its going to apply for the mainstream also" If that's the case I can use Superman Prime.

Hyperion loses. Badly. Deal with it.

Originally posted by Draco69
You're persistant I'll give you that.

You still cannot differiantiate Regular Hyperion to Exiles Hyperion. REGULAR Hyperion got beat by Thor, Hulk and the Thing. EXILES Hyperion killed Galactus. They are by no means the same people. If REGULAR Hyperion hasn't tapped into his full powers yet. Then what makes you think he will in this fight?

You're a funny guy. ALTERNATE REALITY DOES NOT EQUAL REGULAR REALITY.

Your own words " think the writer made it possible for that to happen and i think that its going to apply for the mainstream also" If that's the case I can use Superman Prime.

Hyperion loses. Badly. Deal with it.

Draco's right about everything here. He knows his comics. Except when it comes to Sentry... 😆 Just kidding. Hyperion loses here guys.

Thor shrunk Hyperion and due to his subatomic ralm nature way back when. But there are lots of different Hyperions the one in Supreme Power landed like Superman but was raised by the US gov.

more proof that he is an eternal.
Theory about Hyperion!
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Hyperion is an eternal from the Squadron Supreme's earth. They may be different from the Eternals of Earth. For example, the Skrulls are the Deviants of Skrull World. Their shape-shifting abilities are related to the molecular/genetic instability that the Celestials designed Deviants with.
As for Hyperion, he may have had incredible natural aptitude when it came to developing the particular powers he have. Or even better, all of the Eternals of his world accumulate the abilities they develop over time and program their children with the ability to develop them more quickly while they are in the womb. Kinda like racial memory or a form of group telepathy driven by physiology.

Hey and Draco I have all the comics from the early seventies you mention in one form or another. The Grandmaster set was not an original they reprinted that late sixties issue in Marvel Comics Presents in about 1979-80. The Squadron Sinister/Supreme was and is a JLA knock off. Doc Spectrum/GL, Hyp/Supes, Power Princess/Wonderwoman Nighthawk/Hawkman in Supreme Power Nighthawk=black batman but thats another story, Whizzer/Flash. So the original wins.

Oh and Gladiator, When he appeared in the FF it was before John Byrne who's continuity destroying exploits are worse that any crossover had written supes. He was trying to use Psi powers to explain how Pre Crisis Supes or Vartox could lift a tower block without it crumbling. The entire Imperial guard is A legion of Superheroes from the 80's knockoff for superboy/mon el read Gladiator.

im am very persistant but you all arent giving me info to change my mind you all keep bring up the hulk and hyperion fight, how long ago was that you all hate to admit that he has gotten an upgrade. how long have it been since you seen hyperion in a comic, its been a while because the guy isnt famous so if you were to look at the current hyperion you cannot help but to base him off of comics that you see him in which is exiles. How do you know if marvel havent gave him an upgrade, you dont, you are going by what you think. The only thing that is different about exiles is that they are hopping thru different realities where people think different and dont remember them but the powers are the same including when they met wolverine, he still had a healing factor and razor sharp claws and magneto was on asteroid m and he still had magnetic powers. Marvel gave hyperion an upgrade deal with it, i know it hurts but he has become uber powerful. If you can give me a recent comic in mainstream where hyperion in it and his power isnt the same as the exile version then hyperion vs superman.....hyperion 10/10.

Sorry Draco I meant Derrick I have all the comics, my mistake