no, dark pheonix was just an aspect of the pheonix force, it does not have the complete power of the pheonix force, the pheonix force is an abstract, not dark pheonix. plus galactus is overrated, hes supposed to be the third essential entity after eternity n death but hes just another pile of crap that can be beaten by many many many people now.
ok galactic storm obviously you dont know much about cable i know silver surfer is bad ass i used to read his comics and watch the show but cable can break down molecules and he has some of the most powerful telepathic and telekinetic abilities it might be a close fight but a godlike cable will crush the surfer and he didnt supress cable didnt supress his powers bcs he couldnt handle them, he had to use a lot of his power to keep the organic techno virus in check or it wouldve consumed him
Leon. If u want an in-depth look in2 just exactly what the phoenix is then check the recent xmen team vs avengers team thread because its detailed there. As was originally intended the phoenix who saved existence from the m'kraan, the phoenix who ate stars as dark phoenix is one and the same and is jean grey. It was actually her all the time. Thats how the original writers intended then that idea got retconned in 86 but now the jean phoenix thing has reverted to how it used to be. So you're not quite right there.
not only that but now even after he is free of the techno organic virus, he still tries to use his physical power instead of hi psionic powers because his psionic powers have become far too much for him to handle{a bit like nate} and if he uses them openly, he wont be able to control them and his powers might become a hazard to anything and everything around him, he was also shot point blank twice but didnt die because his powers refused to let him perish.
"ok galactic storm obviously you dont know much about cable i know silver surfer is bad ass i used to read his comics and watch the show but cable can break down molecules and he has some of the most powerful telepathic and telekinetic abilities it might be a close fight but a godlike cable will crush the surfer and he didnt supress cable didnt supress his powers bcs he couldnt handle them, he had to use a lot of his power to keep the organic techno virus in check or it wouldve consumed him"
I dont know a lot about cable? Well thats an incorrect presumption. If u read my previos post you'll find out i used to get cable, then i carried on getting it when it changed to soldier x. Im fully aware of his capabilities. What u and leon need to do is make the distinction between powerful by earth standards and powerful by cosmic standards. There has already been a cable vs SS thread. There are many other big cable fans on this board like myself who joined in and are very knowedgeable on him. The result of that thread was SS won and rightly so
no u misunderstand me galactic storm, what im sayin is that dark pheonix{and any pheonix for that matter be it jean or any1else} is NOT the pheonix force, the thing is that jean has only a FRACTION of the power of the pheonix force and thus is not the same as the cosmic entity named THE PHEONIX FORCE, the pheonix force is the embodiement of passion and all life yet unborn and has practiaclly limitless power, but dark pheonix DOES NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF POWER, it has a very very small fraction of it because of its host's{in this case jean's} mental connection with the pheonix force.
GS has a point. Cable has his limits (can he take Galactus apart molecularly??...LOL). Surfer is cosmic, and wouldn't just be thrown into non-existence by Cable.
Onslaught might have eventually been near Gal and Pheonix, but no way is he there based on what he's done. He didn't do a whole lot, and wasn't even alive for too long. He's a rung or two below the other two beings. And yes, he gave Earth a run for its money....but that was Earth. No cosmic heroes, no world-destroying powers against him, etc. He gave a bunch of muties and half-breeds a good fight, not Galactus and Pheonix.
I'd vote Pheonix on this fight, but certainly wouldn't argue with the Galactus supporters. It would be close.
-DM
i was just making an understatement bcs i was gettin fed up with this argument ya im pretty sure ss could win bcs he has an amalgam of many peoples powers and he is more versatile im saying if cable COULD control all his power than ss ios toast so that is a what if scenario even then it would probably be a close fight but everyone has their own opinion and this is just an opinion of one person and im sure i could be wrong and there is a good chance of it.
" misunderstand me galactic storm, what im sayin is that dark pheonix{and any pheonix for that matter be it jean or any1else} is NOT the pheonix force, the thing is that jean has only a FRACTION of the power of the pheonix force and thus is not the same as the cosmic entity named THE PHEONIX FORCE, the pheonix force is the embodiement of passion and all life yet unborn and has practiaclly limitless power, but dark pheonix DOES NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF POWER, it has a very very small fraction of it because of its host's{in this case jean's} mental connection with the pheonix force."
Im completely aware of what u meant. I think u misunderstood me. The point i was making by saying that those incarnations of phoenix were all jean is that she as the top avatar did all those things. They are feats of a cosmic scale the likes of which only she and similarly powered cosmic beings are capable of. Nate or Cabe can not eat suns like dark phoenix did LMAO
Onslaught at max potential would most likely be the most powerful of the three. Dark Phoenix would be in second and Galactus in third. Onslaught at max potential not only had the power of X-man, which is basiscally the highest manifestation of psionic might in the MU, but he also had the power of Franklin Richards, who is Celestial level. Dark Phoenix rivals Galactus in power, but a Celestial exceeds them. However, Onslaught would have a pretty long ways away from reaching that point.
thas where ur wrong, cable has in him the potential to destroy stars when hes nearly fully in control of his power, cable can also rip the fabric of time to create wormholes, and nate grey had enough energy to save EVERY LIVING THING on the planet after their life forces were harvested from the planet itself. and cable isnt even near his real potential, same goes for nate when he died, u know theres a reason why cable is called GOD LIKE. and just so u know, nono cosmic entities can also do lotsa stuff just like sentry has the power of a million exploding suns but is still only a powered up human.
The phoenix force as itself doesnt act independently. In terms of fighting battles as such. Its job is to act as a doctor of the universe. As such it grants its power to certain avatars who perform these duties. That is why people use jean with phoenix. Because she is the phoenix of the white crown and top of the avatars. As such she can tap into however much she needs to accomplish her phoenix duties
:thas where ur wrong, cable has in him the potential to destroy stars when hes nearly fully in control of his power"
Youve changed your tune. Theres a big difference between destroying a star and eating one LMAO. Im not gonnaargue that maybe just maybe if he fired full might at a star then he might cause a reaction and could make it explode but even thats quite laughable when u consider millions of asteriods collide with the sun at speed every year