Originally posted by zinaldo
Dark phoenix definitely to my eyes takes this as i have just seen galactus defeated in the war of kings issue of black bolt,even surfer seemed to get fried by some woman being looking like nova but just stronger .
Galactus rapes man DP doesn't stand a chance.
I mean he amped surfer so that he was able to beat T&A
Originally posted by rokyckyjk
This may just be a bad piece of writing on Marvel's part. however, I once read a Hercules cartoon (many years ago), in which Herc defeated and escaped Galactus by giving him a powerful intoxicating elixir, which Herc had recieved as a present from some alien beings he assisted. If this is so, then Galactus may be susceptible to chemical poisoning. had Galactus drank more of the liquid, would it be possible for him to die from overdosing on it? A strange concept for a being who can eat entire planets and absorb all chemical compounds with them. as Onslaught is a being of pure psionic energy, I doubt that chemicals would have any effect on him. however, would Onslaught be able to get close enough to or be able to trick galactus into drinking intoxicating liquid?....Probably not. If Galactus can absorb energy, could he absorb psionic energy?.....possibly. in my eyes this is still not a closed argument with no definite winner. once you get into all the potentials, full power and weakeneds, and 'not in control of one's power' attributes in debate like this, things become very complicated. On earth, you would be looking at the complete destruction of man kind. If the battle took place in outer space then who knows? we may have found a chink in Galactus's armour though.....get him wrecked on alien alcohol!
I thought he thought the attempt funny so he decided to just sit there for a moment and talk to Hercules and spare the world.
Originally posted by galactusischere
Galactus rapes man DP doesn't stand a chance.
I mean he amped surfer so that he was able to beat T&A
he amped surfer so that he could survive a little bit of the crunch and t&a's attacks. surfer didn't beat them under his own power.
don't see how that applies to the thread, though.
Originally posted by h1a8To go directly against what luap said...
Didn't Magneto go toe to toe with Phoenix? I thought I seen scans of it but don't know how it went.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8204/classicxmen01816tn3.jpg
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6770/classicxmen01817rd4.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6794/classicxmen01818ee7.jpg
Originally posted by Blanket
To go directly against what luap said...http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8204/classicxmen01816tn3.jpg
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/6770/classicxmen01817rd4.jpg
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6794/classicxmen01818ee7.jpg
oh, that. still not the same though, in fairness...
If the Phoenix Force is indeed vulnerable to reality warping powers, then Onslaught could conceivably defeat Dark Phoenix, assuming that Onslaught is in his final form (Xavier, Magneto, X-Man and Franklin Richards). Franklin Richards' reality warping powers should be able to overwhelm Dark Phoenix, assuming that the aforementioned criteria are correct. Without Franklin Richards' powers and abilities, Onslaught would eventually be defeated by Dark Phoenix.
Dark Phoenix should be able to defeat a very well fed Galactus (near full power), since the Phoenix Force itself can defeat Galactus. The Phoenix Force does not tire like Galactus does. Galactus needs to feed on planets and such to re-energize himself. The Phoenix Force does not need to feed on anything to re-energize herself, even though she consumes stars. As a matter of fact, the Phoenix Force gets stronger when she engages in battle. Galactus will eventually tire, even if he is near full power. Besides, the Phoenix Force is multi-versal, where as Galactus is universal.
Originally posted by pinksushi1
If the Phoenix Force is indeed vulnerable to reality warping powers, then Onslaught could conceivably defeat Dark Phoenix, assuming that Onslaught is in his final form (Xavier, Magneto, X-Man and Franklin Richards). Franklin Richards' reality warping powers should be able to overwhelm Dark Phoenix, assuming that the aforementioned criteria are correct. Without Franklin Richards' powers and abilities, Onslaught would eventually be defeated by Dark Phoenix.Dark Phoenix should be able to defeat a very well fed Galactus (near full power), since the Phoenix Force itself can defeat Galactus. The Phoenix Force does not tire like Galactus does. Galactus needs to feed on planets and such to re-energize himself. The Phoenix Force does not need to feed on anything to re-energize herself, even though she consumes stars. As a matter of fact, the Phoenix Force gets stronger when she engages in battle. Galactus will eventually tire, even if he is near full power. Besides, the Phoenix Force is multi-versal, where as Galactus is universal.
Galactus stated on panel to be able to beat her. Phoenix mentionned that he might be able to outpower her.
Originally posted by pinksushi1
If the Phoenix Force is indeed vulnerable to reality warping powers, then Onslaught could conceivably defeat Dark Phoenix, assuming that Onslaught is in his final form (Xavier, Magneto, X-Man and Franklin Richards). Franklin Richards' reality warping powers should be able to overwhelm Dark Phoenix, assuming that the aforementioned criteria are correct. Without Franklin Richards' powers and abilities, Onslaught would eventually be defeated by Dark Phoenix.Dark Phoenix should be able to defeat a very well fed Galactus (near full power), since the Phoenix Force itself can defeat Galactus. The Phoenix Force does not tire like Galactus does. Galactus needs to feed on planets and such to re-energize himself. The Phoenix Force does not need to feed on anything to re-energize herself, even though she consumes stars. As a matter of fact, the Phoenix Force gets stronger when she engages in battle. Galactus will eventually tire, even if he is near full power. Besides, the Phoenix Force is multi-versal, where as Galactus is universal.
Galactus would eat her.
Galactus is multi-versal.
I've posted the scans in the 'Dark Phoenix' thread.
It has been stated in the comics that Galactus is only universal. Galactus is not multi-versal. I don't know where you are getting that impression. Galactus at full power is Eternity and even Eternity can't defeat the Phoenix Force. Also, Galactus can not "eat" the Phoenix Force.
The Phoenix Force is indeed multi-versal. Rachel Grey already defeated Galactus. White Phoenix of the Crown easily manipulated the Universe. Galactus has never accomplished such a feat. The Phoenix Force will get stronger as soon as she uses her powers. Galactus will become weaker when he engages the Phoenix Force in battle.
