Darth Maul vs. Darth Tyranus

Started by jackstain8 pages

at least the guy i like (non-sexually) is fictional.

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jeez, why do u guys have to get so personal on theese forums? its a god damn movie/book/game. relax, express ur oppinion without insulting any1, and dont over react if some1 insults u. dont act like ur in kinder garden.

anyways, i doo agree Dooku would take this1 althou i like Maul much more.

P.S. i dont get, how is Dooku cooler then Maul. Maul is dark, full of hate, and creepy looking. Dooku is an old guy, layed back... not cool if u ask me

i dont get personal....i get back at people who get personal.

Originally posted by Naga Sadow
jeez, why do u guys have to get so personal on theese forums? its a god damn movie/book/game. relax, express ur oppinion without insulting any1, and dont over react if some1 insults u. dont act like ur in kinder garden.

anyways, i doo agree Dooku would take this1 althou i like Maul much more.

P.S. i dont get, how is Dooku cooler then Maul. Maul is dark, full of hate, and creepy looking. Dooku is an old guy, layed back... not cool if u ask me

Because of what you just said..

Maul is the guy that gets up close and personal and takes them all out.

Dooku sits backs and enjoys the ride, just watching the events unfold and changing them having a little laugh and then at the end fight.

Maul is like the bad guy you see at the end of a video game level... Dooku is the game at the end of the game.

Dooku is cooler than Maul because he's poised, refined and classy; and he knows how to use his saber to perfection.
Maul is cooler than Dooku because he's a stealthy warrior who knows hot to fight.

Count Dooku was very powerful as a Jedi. being a Sith gives him more powers. Look at it this way. TPM Obi kills him, Dooku DESTROYS Obi. Happy?

That is irrelevant

Dooku has clearly beaten Mace, a person who had the shatterpoint ability and perfected Form VII, which became Vaapad. (Maul uses Juyo). Dooku would manhandle Maul. Not because I like him better (Which I do. I like calmer, more refined villains.) but because it's so obvious it bloody hurts.

Am I the only one who wants to know why Dooku doesn't have Sith eyes?

He doesn't because he isnt' as devoted to evil as he is his own ideals.
Anakin will have them because he snaps and kills everything in his path except for Kaninja

I thought that too. But I mean, causing a war of the proportions of the Clone Wars and not have at least pale skin? c'mon

Well, before KotOR, Maul was the only one running around with the 'barely contained fire in mah EYES' look that we now attribute to the Sith or Dark Force users in general; KotOR saw Revan sporting similar eyes.

Episode 2 was produced and released before KotOR came out so that's probably why.

Hm. And The Emperor didn't have those eyes? I think you're right, though.

There aren't any pictures online that I can find that make it easy to see, but I think they're just very sunken old people's eyes.

The emperor does too have them

Fishy, I am a little confused on what you mean by blocking an attack with only the piece in the middle. If you mean by blocking with the middle piece, than that is a big no no. Blocking in the middle leaves you open for another attack and you aren't in a good position to parry another one. You use the ends of the staff to block.

Now if you meant blocking and only being able to hold the middle, than you are correct. It is very difficult, but not impossible. If you use that form with a staff, rather than using the ends, you have to keep the staff in constant motion. If you stop moving, you're screwed. But having two blades makes it easier to block attacks. It is a huge advantage, but it is hard to explain in text. Try it out sometime. You'll see what I mean.

But I do agree, it is difficult to block and parry. That is why when beginning training, you always start with the defensive. Then you incorporate the attacks. And to be able to win a duel, you have to be good with both. Defense alone is never enough. You can't just be on the defensive. You have to give attacks in return. It is humanly impossible to block multiple times without giving an attack. That is why we train in sets of 4. With your partner, you defend 4 attacks, then you deal 4. If you can consistently block 4 attacks in a row, than you will be fine. You shouldn't need anymore than 4 because you will be giving attacks as well. It is a combination. That is why Form III is an impossible Form (well, obviously we don't have help from the force 🙂) because you can't block 15 or 20 shots in one go. Human reflexes just aren't that good.

I hope I answered your question. Sorry for being a little long winded, but it is hard to explain something so physical in words without actually showing it.

Now if you meant blocking and only being able to hold the middle, than you are correct. It is very difficult, but not impossible. If you use that form with a staff, rather than using the ends, you have to keep the staff in constant motion. If you stop moving, you're screwed. But having two blades makes it easier to block attacks. It is a huge advantage, but it is hard to explain in text. Try it out sometime. You'll see what I mean.

Thats all i wanted to hear, I know these things because I do use it myself sometimes. And i have to say when somebody attacks me and i can only hold the staff in the middle and still have to block its hard. Of course weight plays some part here but its not the defining factor.

Maul will just have an hard time defending himself against Dooku, force or not. Get Maul on the defensive and he is screwed

I was always under the impression that Dooku was about as good with a saber as anyone ever was. He is certainly Mauls equal, if not a little bit better in pure saber dueling skills.

He is also substantially more powerful with the force. Add those two things up, and you have another dead Maul.

* and would you people stop saying "without using the force" blah blah blah. The force is ALWAYS used period. There has never, and will never be a time when a Jedi or Sith would fight without the force. It's flat out impossible for that to happen. It's not like they have a choice, use it or don't. Do you have a choice to use, or not use your brain? NO, it's just on 24 / 7. You can't turn it off. Same thing with the force. It isn't a light switch. The force constantly runs through all life, and in Jedi's and Sith's case, it constantly speaks to them and they feed off that naturally.

I was just saying that the force would not make defending a lot easier or not enough to perfect it. In no way was I implying that they should fight without the force, or that it was even possible

hmmm, actually, isnt the force suppose to ease up the defence? i mean qui-gon speaks of jedi reflexes, being able to see things be4 they happen. so if u can see an attack be4 it actually happen, and if ur as fast as Maul, shouldnt it be easy to block?

Its going to be easier but with a weapon like that its going to stay hard, not because you can't see it coming. But because its harder to block