So then... back to the ghost thing... (SPOILERS)

Yoda was NOT wrong at all. The Dark Path did indeed forever cloud Anakin;s destiny. Even as he rejected it, he could only do so by sacrificing himself.

at least he freed himself at the end...
just got the impression that he wanted to do that earlier but didn't find the right time... dunno...
I want qui-gon in ep2 coz he was the coolest character in ep1

Seeing the ghost would be cool, but it's most likely not going to. Hearing Qui-Gon's voice is more likely, if either one are to happen.

That just put a weird picture in my head. Anakin's about to kill a group of Tusken Raiders when suddenly Qui-Gon, all blue and transparent, jumps out at him and says "Ooga booga ooga booga ooga booga ooga booga ooga booga!!!!!!" 😱 😂

Even as he rejected it, he could only do so by sacrificing himself

but where did this intention grew? it grew from love to luke. and the dark path doesn´t let you love, so he did turn back to the light side.

Well, he couldn't kill the Emperor by cutting him in half, cause his lightsaber was gone. So he picked up the Emperor and tossed him down the shaft, thus frying himself from the Emperor's force lightning.

I don't know!

And, there's always what Ush said in Why did Luke win over Vader in Ep6? in the OT section. Anakin brought Balance to the Force by killing the Emperor and then dying, because he was the last Sith after Palpy was "killed." This is where EU screws everything up, because Exar Kun suddenly appears on Yavin IV, and Palpy had cloned himself. Those writers must not have been as learned as us in the knowledge of Star Wars.

u r proving urself u shouldn´t believe all what u read see and hear and watch on the eu.

and quit bringin eu´s stuff up. gets the discussion out of the right path hehe 😉

Hey, EU is all irrelevant... 😠

Fernando, did Yoda say:

"Once you start down the dark path, forever will you be absolutely 100% evil and utterly incapable of feeling things like love"?

No. He said it would forever dominate your destiny. I rather think Anakin's situation is absolute proof of that. No matter what he did, he could NOT escape the fact that he had turned to the Dark Side. It is not something you can ignore, or put behind you. He did return to the good, but he paid with his life.

yoda said:
"once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny" (or something like that)

by saying this we can assume he implied that vader would never return to the light side.
and as you have said ush:

He did return to the good

then yoda was wrong about the chosen one, like i said.

and your point of view

but he paid with his life.

Listen ... stop nitpicking ... the fact is ... Anakin tasted of the dark side when he wiped out the tuskens ... for the first time. That was the beginning ... and the end of that beginning was ... the almost complete extermination of Anakin Skywalker and the birth of Darth Vader ... Lord of the Sith. Now ..... for the better part of his life ... he remained a sith lord ... so ... as Ush says ... it DID dominate his destiny. That he rediscovered his true self in the end does not really change that. Anakin started down the path of the dark side and, in the process lost his soul to the darkside for practically his whole life, as well as his destiny which was to become the most powerful jedi of all time.
Instead, by starting down the path of darkness, he was, for all practical purposes, DEAD, from approximately his 22nd year to the end of his life, except for the very end ... i.e. take the road of darkness, and forever will it dominate your destiny.
Yoda's words ARE true, you see ?

Indeed, Fernando. I do not believe you read my post properly. My point was that Yoda did NOT mean what you take it to mean. He meant what he said literally. Once Anakin started down the dark path, it DID always dominate his life! Turning back or otherwise!

And please don't mind the "nitpicking remark" ! No offence meant ! 🙂

master harmax no offence taken.

ok ok
maybe i dont understan all this yoda quotation correctly.

let me see if i get ur point now ush.

the dark side dominates ur destiny forever, not minding if u be good again or not.

u say that anakin doing good didn´t turn him to the light side?

Well, Anakin "dies" when he become Vader, and Vader just "dies" when Anakin returns to the Light. Vader never goes to the Light-side of the Force, but Anakin does.

Well said Master Harmax. Well said indeed.

no offence captain rex but what u have just said is plain bullshit. hehe
we r talking about one destiny. anakin´s destiny is the same as vader´s destiny. it doesn´t matter howmany times they turn from one to the other.

and captain rex if u really mean what u said then u r in my favor

Vader just "dies" when Anakin returns to the Light

+++ush dont pay attention to this and rex´s message just answer mine before this 2++++

fernando, i think yoda ment exactly what he said. "dominate your destiny" meaning always effects your future. an analogy that might help is to consider turning to the dark side as becoming an alcoholic. even if one decides he has a problem and stops drinking he will always be a recovering alcoholic and so you could say that alcohol will forever dominate his destiny. anakin's turn at the end doesn't change anything, everything in his life since his original turn to his final redemtion revolved around his choosing the dark path.

Yes, Fernando. It is completely irrelevant whether Anakin returned to the Light Side or not. But his turning ALWAYS infleucvned EVERYTHING in his life from then on. Which is what Yoda meant. You cannot escape your decision to turn to the Dark Side.

Anakin's destiny is the same no matter which way you look at it. His destiny was to bring balance to the Force. It was up to him how he would go about it. It is entirely up to him. He he would have remained a Jedi, he would have brought balance, if he chooses the Darkside, the same thing. I believe that it will be assumed after Episode III, everyone will think that Anakin really isn't The Chosen One. I believe everyone involved, believes that Luke is, including Obi-Wan and Yoda, not to mention Sidious.

Shut up and agree with Sarlacc and Ush. I do.

Fernando, no offense taken.