In Death Star, it says that Vader has over 20,000 midi-chlorians per cell count.
Back to the question, the Thought Bomb is a ritual, not a power. If we're talking about pre-body life support system then I'm giving it to Vader. But, hampered by the life support/armored suit, I'm going to have to give it Kaan. Simply put, I don't think Vader would have been able to combat his speed and mobility.
I'm not giving it to Kaan. I presented both sides - Vader unhampered would annihilate Kaan in a lightsaber and Force contest easily. In body suit, Vader would have difficulty defeating Kaan because Vader couldn't complete a Force enhanced jump. His body armor couldn't take the stress. Kaan may have been weaker in the Force yes, but his armor [Vader] couldn't take the stress. Vader is older and would have been worn out.
Originally posted by Wolverine2179
LOL your going to give it to that weakling kaan?
Darth Bane, the guy who hated Kaan more than anyone, admitted that, for all his failings, Kaan "had never been weak." That says a lot coming from Bane.
Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Vader at one point in the duel nearly killed galen marek.
No he didn't. The most he accomplished was two near misses (grazes at best) that Galen didn't even feel.
Originally posted by Darth TruculentRight, so before vader even does anything, he according to you is already worn out.
I'm not giving it to Kaan. I presented both sides - Vader unhampered would annihilate Kaan in a lightsaber and Force contest easily. In body suit, Vader would have difficulty defeating Kaan because Vader couldn't complete a Force enhanced jump. His body armor couldn't take the stress. Kaan may have been weaker in the Force yes, but his armor [Vader] couldn't take the stress. Vader is older and would have been worn out.
So because of the armor, he is going to have difficulty fighting not only kaan, but anybody in the mythos. Funny how he tooled 3-4 jedi knights at once despite this dilemma and is still a beast in the force being able to choke xizor light years away and crush an entire structure with the force.
Yup, his suit didn't let him do that alright. Kaan isn't going to last long against vader and vader id going to beat him comfortably.
And vader can't complete a force jump? You must have never read any of the empire comics showing vader [u]dodging[u] blaster bolts with force jump.
Seriously, one post your saying kaan takes it and now your saying vader takes it with extreme difficulty?
F-a-i-l.
Originally posted by chilled monkeyHad never been weak in that era, but compared to the the big daddies of SW, hes weak.
Darth Bane, the guy who hated Kaan more than anyone, admitted that, for all his failings, Kaan "had never been weak." That says a lot coming from Bane.
Again how does this prove he is going to last long and give vader a hard fight? What substantiates his skills in the force? What substantiates his lightsaber skils in an era of weaklings?(save for kasim).
Originally posted by chilled monkeyYet they still fought on even footing until galen achieved his clarity and whooped his ass.
No he didn't. The most he accomplished was two near misses (grazes at best) that Galen didn't even feel.
Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Right, so before vader even does anything, he according to you is already worn out.So because of the armor, he is going to have difficulty fighting not only kaan, but anybody in the mythos. Funny how he tooled 3-4 jedi knights at once despite this dilemma and is still a beast in the force being able to choke xizor light years away and crush an entire structure with the force.
Yup, his suit didn't let him do that alright. Kaan isn't going to last long against vader and vader id going to beat him comfortably.
And vader can't complete a force jump? You must have never read any of the empire comics showing vader [u]dodging[u] blaster bolts with force jump.
Seriously, one post your saying kaan takes it and now your saying vader takes it with extreme difficulty?
F-a-i-l.
I agree with you. Vader would is awesome!
Originally posted by mattatomHe boned Githany who knows how many times... that puts him on par with at least Revan.
I also can't remember Kaan having any combat feats, at all.
And of course Revan boned Bastila, a blue teenager, and a cat. That puts him at least on par with Vader.
Who of course boned the former ruler of a planet and Luke Skywalker's mom, so that puts him at least on par with Sidious.
Who himself boned Gideon's mom that one night she forgot to take her pill. Damn, I dropped the ball.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
He boned Githany who knows how many times... that puts him on par with at least Revan.And of course Revan boned Bastila, a blue teenager, and a cat. That puts him at least on par with Vader.
Who of course boned the former ruler of a planet and Luke Skywalker's mom, so that puts him at least on par with Sidious.
Who himself boned Gideon's mom that one night she forgot to take her pill. Damn, I dropped the ball.
Revan didn't bone the blue one and the lesbian. But everything else is definately true.
Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Had never been weak in that era, but compared to the the big daddies of SW, hes weak.Again how does this prove he is going to last long and give vader a hard fight? What substantiates his skills in the force? What substantiates his lightsaber skils in an era of weaklings?(save for kasim).
It doesn't. I just wanted to point out Bane didn't consider Kaan weak in order to be fair. To my knowledge Kaan has no combat feats. He himself acknowledged that he was no match for Bane in a fight.
Originally posted by Wolverine2179
Yet they still fought on even footing until galen achieved his clarity and whooped his ass.
Yeah that's true.
Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Revan didn't bone the blue one and the lesbian.
That is correct.