Eternity is the living embodiment of all that is, was, and ever will be. The PF is the life force in the cosmos. By implicit logic you can see that Eternity encompasses the PF because Eternity is both living and non-living (i.e., planets, stars, super novae, galaxies, objects of power, etc.) made living into 1 actual omnipotent body. And if you're going to argue that the PF draws power from all life and all future life, well Eternity is the living embodiment of the universe from a time aspect, hence his name, while his counterpart, Infinity, is the living embodiment of the universe from a space aspect.
"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL this -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,
the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,
I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the Universes"
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616 Eternity is multi-versal according to this ^
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Originally posted by Power Cosmic IIEternity is the living embodiment of all that is, was, and ever will be. The PF is the life force in the cosmos. By implicit logic you can see that Eternity encompasses the PF because Eternity is both living and non-living (i.e., planets, stars, super novae, galaxies, objects of power, etc.) made living into 1 actual omnipotent body. And if you're going to argue that the PF draws power from all life and all future life, well Eternity is the living embodiment of the universe from a time aspect, hence his name, while his counterpart, Infinity, is the living embodiment of the universe from a space aspect.
Pre-retcon Beyonder stomps.
That aside,
Eternity wins here,
Post-retcon Beyonder comes in second,
and the Phoenix Force is third.
Post-Retcon Beyonder granted Rachel Summers the full power of the previous Phoenix. (Jean)
Does anyone know what sustains the Phoenix Force?
Answer: The psyche of living beings. (without life, Phoenix is nothing)
Eternity nore Beyonder (pre or post) need life to exist.
Originally posted by pinksushi1Why does Eternity defeat the Phoenix Force, Mr. Master?
Originally posted by galactusischereThat was Post Retcon Beyonder that gave Phoenix the full power of Phoenix?
We know this because Rachel Summer's 2005 bio
still stamps Beyonder with the feat.
btw. Officially, post-retcon Beyonder is also given credit for erasing 616 Death. 🙂
In Mistress Death's 2006 Handbook bio.
Post-retcon Beyonder is even credited with threatening Eternity's existence.
This is because at some point, Post-Retcon Beyonder was actually empowered again,
not to his original levels, but above his Cube being levels it seems,
still below unrestricted Owen though.
Originally posted by pinksushi1Again, the Phoenix Force has been stated to be multi-versal.
And Phoenix has never created even a single universe,
nor has Phoenix ever destroyed a single universe outside of a 'What If' comic. 😂
Heck, Phoenix has never even created a Galaxy.
Originally posted by pinksushi1Where does Eternity lie?
Originally posted by galactusischere"Wolds within Worlds, Dimensions folding into themselves,
Entire UniverseS being born, and collapsing into ruin,
and yet I sense that ALL this -- is but a fraction of what Eternity is,
the core, the Heart of Eternity's being ... here All Energy, All Matter, lies,I will detonate Eternity's Heart --- triggering another Creation event,
Re-Birthing every being and thing in All the Universes"
