Defencers vs JLA (different line up than first time this was done)

Originally posted by jrodslam
Well to JLA's defence, GL can drain energy just as SS can. And if its Hal, that wouldnt be an issue. I still say Defenders take it though.

what energy is he gonna suck??

LMAO

where has GL sucked energy(radiation , solar , etc) before ? issue #

Defenders win. JLA has nothing for the Surfer. He could simply suck the energy out of the JLA.

I've seen people assume that Flash would simply punch out Strange. Yeah, he has to say stuff for spells, but he always has some defenses up anyway. I think it's safe to say that Flash would burn up against some invisible magic shield if he tried to hurt Strange.

And Surfer, as this debate has revolved around, could at least negate Flash's efforts to slow people down and generally just be really fast.

MM's a powerful telepath, but most of the Defenders (the important ones at least) won't be affected by him (Surfer, Strange, Hulk, etc.).

Defenders have this fight in the bag. JLA is outmatched in nearly every area.

-DM

Ditto

bitto n 1

The Silver Surfer is too much faster and more powerful than any of them. He is also immune to telepathy. Martian Manhunter won't last a nanosecond.

Dr. Strange always has magical protection, and the Cloak of Levitation allows him to fly at greater than light speeds. The Eye Of Agamotto is much more powerful than Martian Manhunters mind. Add that to the Ruby of Dominion, and Martian Manhunter's telepathy is nothing in comparison.

Savage Hulk isn't going to get knocked out. To my recollection, Savage Hulk has never been knocked unconscious by blows. If Hulk can contend with Celestials, Superman and Wonder Woman, will not dispose of him quickly.

Flash doesn't really give his teammates a higher degree of speed; from what I've seen, he sorta drags them along with him without touching them. It's almost like a form of telekinesis he can only use while running.

Defenders win this easy.

i still dont think it's that simple. MM keeps the entire JLA aware of everything happening around them. as long as they have this constant link GL can counter anything SS tries to do. the only problem i'm having is Strange's ff. it blocks all forms of attacks (physical, magical, and mental), prevents MM from even reading anyone's mind who is in the ff, but allows AOTA attacks from anyone who is inside it. . .?

omfg i just realized i spelled defenders wrong!!!!! i hate myself! *shoves finger down throat* puke

Originally posted by Quick Freeze
i still dont think it's that simple. MM keeps the entire JLA aware of everything happening around them. as long as they have this constant link GL can counter anything SS tries to do. the only problem i'm having is Strange's ff. it blocks all forms of attacks (physical, magical, and mental), prevents MM from even reading anyone's mind who is in the ff, but allows AOTA attacks from anyone who is inside it. . .?

Surfer moves faster than MM can think. GL isn't really a factor, Surfer has absorbed/manipulated Oan energy before. Not much GL can do to him.

Yes it is very clear that SS can emit, absorb almost any kind of energy.

there were lots of people saying

-heat vision will hurt
-SS can't abosrd solar energy.
-SS can't fight at light speed.

me and comic cube have shown scans that shows he can do all that.

and still people were saying shit like he is an alien ect.

it doesn't matter.

Gl isnt a factor? I beg to differ.
GL aborbed the power in the Cosimc Cube.
When did Surfer absorb/manipulate Oan energy?

yeah he only absorbed it because KYLE couldnt contain all his ring power AND all the power surfer gave parallax. surfer could barely contain it himself and almost died. he absorbed it and made sure that it didnt destroy everything but he surely cant control it the way you guys are talking about

SS didnt even absorb it. Kyle gave it to him. They must be reffering to another crossover.

the only other time they even saw each other is in one-page battle in M vs DC where they just charged at each other, there was an explosion, and klye was passed out on ss's board

Lol. Then its a good thing were talking about Hal here, cause SS would have a very very hard time beating him. If he can.

exactly

Originally posted by jrodslam
Gl isnt a factor? I beg to differ.
GL aborbed the power in the Cosimc Cube.
When did Surfer absorb/manipulate Oan energy?

Surfer absorbs Oan energy in the Fantasitic Four/Superman crossover.

Surfer would have no problem disposing of Hal. He absorbed Parallax's energy. There is nothing Hal can really do to Silver Surfer. Any Oan energy Hal directs at him, Surfer can absorb.

He can absorb the rings energy.
without the Ring Hal is nothing but a man.

We are also forgetting that Surfer is a billion times faster than any Green Lantern. He could knock him unconscious in mere nanoseconds.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Surfer absorbs Oan energy in the Fantasitic Four/Superman crossover.

Surfer would have no problem disposing of Hal. He absorbed Parallax's energy. There is nothing Hal can really do to Silver Surfer. Any Oan energy Hal directs at him, Surfer can absorb.

I'm sorry, when did GL absorb the power of a Cosmic Cube?