Quicksilver Vs Flash

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spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by The Flash
Why do you hate DC? Is it because they 'over power' their superheroes? If you hate 'over powered' superheroes so much, then explain to me why you like The Mask?

I know what you mean. I used to think DC was over-powered until i realized just how many of Marvel's characters are ridiculously over-powered. In DC the 'extra-added' powers are basically the JLA downwards. In Marvel it is the opposite: anyone above Thor is just over-powered to a stupid level.
Think of it. We have Thanos, Terrax, Morg, Silver Surfer, Franklin Richards (geez - a kid that can create pocket universes), Galactus, Eternity, and a whole list of other characters who would could crush Pre-Crisis Superman. Even Marvel's Gladiator is simply a clone of Superman ....that is pre-Crisis Superman.
I saw a list that showed Marvel characters that are able to scourge a planet sized object, and that list had over 25 characters. DC does not even come close. With PRe-Crisis Superman destroyed years ago that level of power was more or less laid to rest.
But most Marvel people will always say DC is overpowered (i evne used to believe that, even quite recently, until i realized that it was Marvel that was overpowered).

Lord-of-Dreams pimpin member

Wow.Ilike you. You always close every window of arguement. So from now on, I will look for all spetznaz posts,and agree lol 😉

IRTMU-Dragon The Mask

The Mask was never over-powered, thats who he is, A god with no point of life, sealed inside a mask.

I hate DC because DC is just stupid, there second to marvel and all there heroes are like, overpowered behemoths. I mean come on. Superman? Hes pretty gay, Green lantern can like do ANYTHING with that ring, The flash running light speed, or near? Come on, DC is just way to far-fetched.

nigel45 The Amazing

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
The Mask was never over-powered, thats who he is, A god with no point of life, sealed inside a mask.

I hate DC because DC is just stupid, there second to marvel and all there heroes are like, overpowered behemoths. I mean come on. Superman? Hes pretty gay, Green lantern can like do ANYTHING with that ring, The flash running light speed, or near? Come on, DC is just way to far-fetched.

That depends on your definition of TOO far-fetched. And besides, that's what comic books are. Would you say that a guy could realistically be bitten by a radioactive spider, and gain a perfect mix of its abilities so he can fight super-villains? Come on, all comic books are far-fetched. And why do people give guys like Flash and Superman crap for being exceptionally high powered? Is there like a set level of power that all superheroes have to be under for them to be concerned realistic or worthwhile? If you like Marvel that's fine. If you hate DC that's fine too. But don't say that DC is stupid because it's more popular heroes can beat Marvel's more popular heroes.

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
The Mask was never over-powered, thats who he is, A god with no point of life, sealed inside a mask.

I hate DC because DC is just stupid, there second to marvel and all there heroes are like, overpowered behemoths. I mean come on. Superman? Hes pretty gay, Green lantern can like do ANYTHING with that ring, The flash running light speed, or near? Come on, DC is just way to far-fetched.


Marvel has around 10 stupidly over-powered Characters for every one DC has.
For example, you mentioned the Green Lanterns. Ok, let us take the two most powerful GLs ever. Parallax and Ion. In DC they are among the most powerful since they can undo a universe.
Ok, let's look at Marvel. How many people can do the same? Many. Ranging from children (eg Franklin Richards, who could do that before he could freakin' crawl), to weird entities (eg the Phoenix force), to cosmic energies (eg Death, Eternity, Galactus), to whoever the heck currently has the Infinity Gauntlet (to the effect that Thanos with the IG is more powerful that the cosmic entities mentioned), to whoever is holding the Heart of the Universe (apparently speedy Gonzalez with the HOTU could destroy the world), to whichever herald Galactus has currently favors (well, they may not be able to destroy universes but they could give PRE-CRISIS Superman hell on Earth).
Geez, evne Spider-man .....FREAKING SPIDERMAN- was overpowered when they made him ....lol .....'cosmic.'
And to the mantra that DC had Pre-Crisis Superman i have a retort .....what the heck is Marvel's Gladiator anyways! He is not only a ripoff, but he is a ripoff of PRe-Crisis superman. Flying through stars and handling planets and such.
Yet he is never mentioned when people are stuck on Pre-Crisis moaning.
Even the Telepaths. Generally DCs Martian Manhunter is stronger than Xavier .....but every now and then Xavier, who normally can only touch a few minds without the use of Cerebra/Cerebro/whatever-version-he-is-using-now, can suddenly touch the mind of his far-off love in the Shiar galaxy. Sheesh!
Anyways, it is normally said that it is DC that overpowers its characters. But honestly it is Marvel. Anyone above Thor is given ridiculously potent powers.
DC learnt after the whole Pre-Crisis fiasco - Marvel still operates under 'the more galaxy destroying characters we have the better.'
It is Marvel that is overpowered.

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

I see I am not alone in this battle.

kgkg Vigilante

I agree with spetznaz that marvel has over powered it's character , which causes every little conflic like common who can(and willing ) to stop galactus etc. , and everyone galctus creates are supermans level and higher.

Superman is one of the strongest heros of DC , but i see what IRTMU-Dragon also DC have stonger heroes that marvel earth heros (like spider-man , FF4 , X-men , it's like superman alone can take them all on.) But that is chaging like of franklin are chaing earth shit too.

IRTMU-Dragon The Mask

Whats DC's explinations of there heroes? Not well thought out and crappy.

Superman. Man from the stars.
Green lantern, magic ring.

Uhh... thats all the heroes from gayC I know... I mean DC.

The Flash Faster Than You

X-Men, were born like that.
Spider-Man, bitten with a radioactive spider.
The Mask, a magical mask.

These sure are great explanations.

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

Green Lantern has a whole story behind it. So does Superman. I dont get what you are trying to say.

Lord-of-Dreams pimpin member

F4: Flew into a magical star...
Juggy: Found a magic rock thing...
Daredevil: Crazy potion sprade in his eyes...
Theres no arguement there, you see. And at least DC has substance. For instance, GL's ring doesn't work forever. Sups has a huge weakness that everybody knows about. See my point? Both sides have... 'flaws' (not exactly flaws, but I'm sure you all understand).

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
Whats DC's explinations of there heroes? Not well thought out and crappy.

Superman. Man from the stars.
Green lantern, magic ring.

Uhh... thats all the heroes from gayC I know... I mean DC.


Marvel has always had more asinine origin stories for its characters.
Let's see:
Spiderman: Bitten by a radioactive spider, and from the bite develops the relative strength, speed and dexterity as a spider (at least in the movie they had sense to make it bio-enginereed). Either way it is silly.
Ego the Living Planet: Well, the name speaks for itself. A 'living planet.' Hmmm, next!
DareDevil: Blinded by a chemical spill in his eyes. This made his other senses obviously better since he would rely on them and not his sight. If they stopped there it would be alright, and he would have been perfect. But they had to go ahead and say that the chemical after him by giving him a 'radar sense.' Why they did not stop at better hearing and smell but had to go to 'radar senses' is beyond me.
Thor: A Norse God.
Hercules: Greek mythology.
Fantastic Four: Four people fly through a cosmic storm, and instead of being irradiated to death they turn into a person able to turn into flame, one able to stretch like a rubber-band, one able to turn invisible, and another who is living rock. No explanation on how it happened apart from 'they flew through a cosmic storm.'
Hulk: Dude stands at the epicenter of a detonating gamma source, and instead of being killed is transformed into a green beast with UNLIMITED strength.
Juggernaut: Homie finds a rock. The rock is actually a gem. The gem is actually the home of an outer-dimension deity. The deity is named Cyttorak, and he grants our homie the power to be a living Juggernaut. UNSTOPPABLE (unless, ofcourse, the Hulk turns into an even STRONGER version that can drop kick the Marko).
Onslaught: Hey .....why not have a trapped consciousness take over the abilities of its former body (magneto) and its current body prison (Xavier) and become the 'greatest threat to face the world.'
Galactus: Galaan of Taa. Sole survivor of a dead universe. Although born a humanoid he is transformed by the Watchers into a PLANET-CONSUMING entity.

LEt me say at least DC is more sensible. Some DC examples below:

Superman: Survivor of an exploding world that somehow uses solar energy to fuel his metabolism-based powers.
Batman: Rich child who uses his rage to train himself in the martial systems for years, detective work for years more, and fights crime. Anyone can be Batman with enough training and a huge bank account .....well, maybe not. But it is at least better than trying to stand in the middle of a Gamma test-site ala Hulk.
Green Lantern: Recepient of a ring from the Oans - a group of aliens. The ring is actually extremely advanced technology- not magic. And anyways it is better than a humanoid being transformed into an eater of planets.

Anyways, my point is that Marvel has some of the weirdest origin stories, especially when compared to DC. Some of Marvel's origin stories are just plain ridiculous ....even for a comic book.

Ironman Restricted

dc isnt gay but marvel has better chracters more fans and more licences do yuo see a gl movie noooo you see a hulk movie elektra spiderman fantastic four captain america, on on on. but do you see a hmmm hold on well i am gonna quit i am done.

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

The tide is about to turn. DC has Batman, Superman and Constantine movies coming out soon. And the Flash is green lighted as well.

Draco69 Snarky Slytherin

And Wonder Woman. Demi Moore was asked to play her.

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

The only thing that can be said about the up coming DC movies is that they will be better then Catwoman... but hell even Elektra was better then Catwoman.

Greek or Norse god is a much better angle then an Alien solar battery... thats just silly.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Superman: A near human-like alien that gains god-like strength, speed, endurance, and durability from solar radiation.
Batman: A rich guy who's the best at everything and knows twice as much.
Green Lantern: I like their origin.

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Superman: A near human-like alien that gains god-like strength, speed, endurance, and durability from solar radiation.
Batman: A rich guy who's the best at everything and knows twice as much.
Green Lantern: I like their origin.

DC origins are still more realistic than Marvel origins. And by far.
Superman may gain strength from the sun ....but that is just a tangent off photosynthesis. Plants, and many forms of bacteria, gain sustenance from the sun.
Hence Superman's solar charging has a realistic bent (even though no plant ever flew at light speed LOL).
Compare that with almost any Marvel origin.
This is obviously comics, and thus out of the ordinary tales are canon in both houses, but Marvel consistently has some rather peculiar origins.

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by Ironman
dc isnt gay but marvel has better chracters more fans and more licences do yuo see a gl movie noooo you see a hulk movie elektra spiderman fantastic four captain america, on on on. but do you see a hmmm hold on well i am gonna quit i am done.

Batman Begins will give Spiderman a run for its money once it comes out.
And if they get their act right the new Superman coming out less than 2 years from now should also be good.

nigel45 The Amazing

"Whats DC's explinations of there heroes? Not well thought out and crappy.

Superman. Man from the stars.
Green lantern, magic ring.

Uhh... thats all the heroes from gayC I know... I mean DC."

Wow, you're really clever.

Marvel has some 'out there' characters, origins, etc. and so does DC. It seems like most Marvel fans readily insult DC while most DC fans have at least a level of respect for Marvel. That's my opinion, obviously not fact. If I had to guess why things are this way, I would say that the more popular Marvel characters (Spiderman, Hulk, X-men) would almost definitely lose to some of the more popular DC characters (i.e. Superman). Then that leads to "DC overpowers their characters" and eventually "GayC...I mean DC"