Quicksilver Vs Flash

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Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by spetznaz
DC origins are still more realistic than Marvel origins. And by far.
Superman may gain strength from the sun ....but that is just a tangent off photosynthesis. Plants, and many forms of bacteria, gain sustenance from the sun.
Hence Superman's solar charging has a realistic bent (even though no plant ever flew at light speed LOL).
Compare that with almost any Marvel origin.
This is obviously comics, and thus out of the ordinary tales are canon in both houses, but Marvel consistently has some rather peculiar origins.

Where some origins make perfect sense at one point, it usually blows it in another. Processing the solar radiation is fine but gaining the ability to push a planet? That blows the realism out of the water. It's the same with Hulk.

He can do it because he's a solar battery? Fine. How does his body handle storing and processing this energy? You'd think he'd be glowing or in a huge amount of pain. I know he has glowed after flying through the sun or something but with that kind of energy, he should be lit up like a christmas tree.

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

DC even thought of that one.
According to them it is his bio-energy field (the one millimeters from his skin) that keeps him from glowing.
Again, it is still in comics so things do not need to meet exacting physics standards, but DC at the very least makes a serious effort.
Let's see how Marvel explains Franklin Richards being able to create 'pocket universes.'
Or how a living planet (eg Ego the Living Planet) can come to be.

The Flash Faster Than You

Explain how Hulk destroyed an asteroid twice earth's size without much effort.

Lord-of-Dreams pimpin member

Neither side is scientifically perfect, but I think that DC just tries harder to keep it relitively sound.
The X-men just ARE powerful.
Spiderman was bittin by a radioactive spider, and given perfect regulations of it's powers.
I like both comics, but there's no point in argueing about which makes more sense, 'cause neither is perfect.

DarkCrawler KABOOOOM!!
Hulk: Dude stands at the epicenter of a detonating gamma source, and instead of being killed is transformed into a green beast with UNLIMITED strength.

Lol, USA bombs their enemies with that...they turn into army of Hulks and destroy USA.

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

who the hell voted for Quicksilver. I bet it was one of the narrow minded fanboys.

IRTMU-Dragon The Mask

Wow, Spetznaz...

You need to get the crap off these boards, because the majority is marvel, why are you here?

Im almost sick... I cant read that much bashing and sarcasm in a post about marvel.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

I might of voted Quicksilver. Just to throw off the percent probably. It could of been another thread though.

Anyway, Franklin Richards indeed has no real reason to be so powerful.

And I agree with Lord of Dreams for Spiderman's powers being perfect. He's powerful but not so powerful as to be completely untouchable by conventional weapons.

I guess I just don't like characters with no weakness. They're boring. Yeah, I like Juggernaut but he's got strengths and weaknesses. He's not trying to be Mr. Superman Greenjeans... or Purplejeans... shut up.

IRTMU-Dragon The Mask

Who?

Me?

ZephroCarnelian Senior Member

Spidey does have a perfect balance of powers - not invincible, but enough to make a mockery of any 'thuggish' bad guys who need taking down a peg or two.

N out of Quicksilver or Flash, I dunno who voted for Quicksilver lol.

Flash will kick his ass so fast he'd feel it before the fight even began.

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
Wow, Spetznaz...

You need to get the crap off these boards, because the majority is marvel, why are you here?

Im almost sick... I cant read that much bashing and sarcasm in a post about marvel.


Hey, the truth is the truth.
I love Marvel as much as I love DC. Infact i'm always torn between Marvel's Black Panther and DC's Batman, and most of my rarer collections are infact Marvel books.
The fact still remains that Marvel's origin stories are just totally skewed when it comes to their reality basis. Obviously DC is also a comic, and thus has some 'interesting' origins, but at least DC strives to stick as close to 'reality' as they can. Marvel on the other hand just says Franklin can create pocket universes - end of story. Or Galaan was made into Galactus, an eater of planets - end of story. Or Banner was caught in a gamma detonation, and instead of dying became a crushing monster - end of story (at least in the movie they tried to say it was a mix of the gamma radiation vs nanites, but in the comics it was just cut and paste).
DC tries to have some logical coherence, at least when compared to Marvel.
And as for the 'DC overpowers its characters' argument that is also false. Marvel has a whole list of characters that are just silly in terms of strength. The thing about DC is that everyone always goes back to the Pre-Crisis Superman (which was like decades ago); or they say that if a DC character (eg Flash) beats a popular Marvel character (eg Quicksilver).
What's funny is that when the Hulk (who has UNLIMITED atrength) beats someone Marvel people do not say a thing.
When Franklin creates a pocket universe they just say how cool that was.
When Rogue starts getting all sorts of powers it is taken as ok (last time i checked she had Magneto's power of the EM spectrum, plus Wolverines ADAMANTIUM claws - how the heck did she acquire those?).
And talking about pre-crisis Supes. Just exactly who is Marvel's Gladiator? He is an overt rip-off of PRe-Crisis Supes (lets see: he is an alien who came to the Shiar universe, he has many superman like strengths, his weaknesses are to 'radiation,' he has flown through stars and moved planets etc). He is Marvel's pre-crisis Superman. At least DC had the sense to stop pre-crisis years ag0 ....Marvel still makes do with the Supes clone.
OR when SPiderman is made into a cosmic entity no one bats an eyelid.
And one name: Thanos. Without the IG or HOTU he is almost unbeatable, give him either and he becomes ridiculous.
However, if any DC character wins it is because 'DC overpowers its characters.'
I love both houses more or less equally, but many Marvel fanboys on this (and other) forums are just hypocrites.
It is Marvel that is overpowered, and Marvel that has more 'inspired' (LOL read: what the heck!) origin stories.
And that is just the truth. And just because the majority of the posters may (or may not) be Marvel fans doesn't change it one bit.

nigel45 The Amazing

Originally posted by IRTMU-Dragon
Wow, Spetznaz...

You need to get the crap off these boards, because the majority is marvel, why are you here?

Im almost sick... I cant read that much bashing and sarcasm in a post about marvel.

Hey, from what I've seen, spetznaz has been objective and reasonable in his responses to this debate. I haven't spotted even the suggestion of bashing or sarcasm. You, on the other hand, have been bashing the hell out of DC. Hypocritical?

Tron Shinigami Rep.

You all make good points, but stay on topic in this thread.

And ironman, you probably don't see that many DC movies because Time Warner owns the rights on them and is the only company that does anything with them, they're all under Warner Bros.

juggernaut74 Bigsexy

Your right Tron but they are coming.

Lord-of-Dreams pimpin member

Yep!! They sure are. But I wanna see a Flash vs. Quicksilver flick! Show the whole world how badly Flash could kick Quicksilver's hide!!!!

RobWolf27 Senior Member

Pietro Maximoff is a mutant who can think and move at superhuman speeds; his entire body is adapted to the rigors of life in the fast lane. Quicksilver's powers of acceleration make possible any number of feats: He has dodged machinegun fire, created cyclone-like gusts of wind, sprinted up the sides of buildings and run across bodies of water. Since his abilities were fully awakened by the High Evolutionary's Isotope E, he no longer knows the upper limits of speed.

- Superhuman speed OK A car goes 175 miles per hour and it can't run across bodies of water. So quicksilver has to be faster than 175 miles per hour.

nigel45 The Amazing

A car is too big.

RobWolf27 Senior Member

He is now probably faster since this Isotope E thing. Maybe there is no more limits to the speed he can go but he hasn't unlocked his full potential yet. That sometimes how it is with mutants maybe anyways.

RobWolf27 Senior Member

Oh how fast does a bullet travel when its shot out of a gun? That's how fast they said superman was at first to .

nigel45 The Amazing
Originally posted by RobWolf27
He is now probably faster since this Isotope E thing. Maybe there is no more limits to the speed he can go but he hasn't unlocked his full potential yet. That sometimes how it is with mutants maybe anyways.

Ok, well the Flash can already move at around lightspeed. I can't imagine Quicksilver can run that fast (last I remember he was at about 300 mph, though that may have changed). If you want to talk limitless speed, Flash is the guy.