Full Power Tyrant VS. Full Power Molecule Man

<<LF and MM please dont tell me u thought that. What puts MM in the position he is in the hierarchy is the scale to which he can manipulate matter on a molecular level. Since the retcon he and all the other cube beings are firmly positioned between the skyfathers and the abstracts. No more no less.>>

i'm wondering how many times you'll need to say that GS . . . seems like what, the 10 000th time between this and the other (odin/zeus) thread!? this is from the marvel directory:

<<Kosmos is classified as a "minor omnipotent" (levels are detailed in one of her appearances), meaning that her power does not compare to the Celestials, Eternity, the Living Tribunal, etc.>>

like MM, kosmos is a cube being - not the most powerful cube being - just a cube being. don't misunderstand - MM is POWERFUL! but he likely falls exactly where GS says he does in the food chain. now, about galactus being overrated . . .

<<Galactus can tap, transform, and direct vast quantities of cosmic energy for whatever purpose he desires. Galactus can teleport within and between dimensions under personal power. Galactus has shown he can allow his “Hunger” to consume entire mutliverses, plus he has all the abilities of his heralds, to a greater degree, and then some.
Superhuman Mental Powers: Galactus has demonstrated psionic abilities, the limits of which are unknown.>>

overrated my canadian A$$!! poorly written, yes. overrated, no. now, given that full power tyrant is somewhere near galactus level, i'd have to say tyrant wins this battle. i'll say it would probably be a decent fight,
but i don't think the victor would ever be in real doubt. i USED to think MM was all that, but after the debacle with the cube beings and all their powers being stripped, he's just not what he once was.

You got it all wrong MM is the most powerful cube being confirmed by Kubik in FF 27. The energy from his fight with Beyonder caused a Watcher to go blind, made a plant alive and so on.

He don't just manipulate molecules anymore he can warp reality on a universal scale not illusion like some of you say.

He does all that through his control over molecules. Yes we know and agree with the fact that he is the most powerful cube being but that doesnt change the fact that him and his other cube beings were retconned thats it end of story. So hes the most powerful out of a group of minor cosmic beings. Big Wow.!! If u dont accept that even though its in the comics then u are a living example of fanboyism at its most extreme.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
He does all that through his control over molecules. Yes we know and agree with the fact that he is the most powerful cube being but that doesnt change the fact that him and his other cube beings were retconned thats it end of story. So hes the most powerful out of a group of minor cosmic beings. Big Wow.!! If u dont accept that even though its in the comics then u are a living example of fanboyism at its most extreme.

Amen 🙂

Molecule Man overrated. What has he done lately, not a damn thing. He is not in the same league as a Thanos,tyrant as a bada$$.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Amen 🙂

Molecule Man overrated. What has he done lately, not a damn thing. He is not in the same league as a Thanos,tyrant as a bada$$.

You don't know much about MM if you think that Thanos and Tyrant is more powerful than Owen.

Maybe they are more ruthless than he is but im term of power they don't even come close!!!

Originally posted by LordFear
I stick by that statement. During the Secret Wars saga, MM's powers we explained and Doom recognized the magnitude of his powers. He deviated from Beyonder and got buddy buddy with Owen knowing what his potential is

Doom did state that; he than turns around and steals Galactus' powers to fight Beyonder. He even allowed MM and the other villains to escape. MM ain't that powerful, even before Beyonder got reckoned.

It's not a question about reckoned or not, the truth is that what MM showed in his last apperance simply puts him above Galactus and many other cosmic beings

Originally posted by Molecule man
It's not a question about reckoned or not, the truth is that what MM showed in his last apperance simply puts him above Galactus and many other cosmic beings

The abstracts are to damn powerful and they are above the cube beings plain and simple. You keep referring to ff# 27 about MM that he is the most powerful cube being. That doesn't mean he is above the top 3 celestials, the stranger, infinity, oblivion, galactus, in-betweener, order&chaos, ego etc. they will all serve his candy a$$ on a silver platter. The phoenix avatrs will kill him they can do what he do but better hell they eat suns. Man talk about fanboyism to it's highest order anybody with comic book knowledge knows that the abstracts are top of the food chain even mephstio will serve him on a plate.

The phoenix avatars kill him? Just because they consume stars or whatever doesn't make them more powerful. Owen doesn't have to consume anything to stay powerful his powers comes from the beyonderverse which is even out of the rule of LT.

Many consider Franklin to be Celestial level and he is just a mutant and his parents aren't that powerful either.

Stranger, Galactus, Celestials, Ego aren't abstracts either. So what are you trying to say.

Originally posted by Molecule man
It's not a question about reckoned or not, the truth is that what MM showed in his last apperance simply puts him above Galactus and many other cosmic beings

And what did he do to put him above Galactus?

So what's up with Galactus anyway this dude have to consume planets or he dies so how powerful is he?

Originally posted by Molecule man
So what's up with Galactus anyway this dude have to consume planets or he dies so how powerful is he?

That's his role. He consumes planets. What's your point?

Surfer and Thanos don't need to eat; Galactus would still stomp them. Skyfathers don't need to eat, Galactus would stomp any of them. What does eating have anything to do with it? If he's full, he can stomp on people like cube beings.

Yeah that's his role which is a important one but that doesn't make him powerful enough to compare agaisnt other cosmics. He is nothing compared to the Celestials!

Thor drove Galactus away with his godblast LOL

If he is full but he never is!!!

With a cosmic cube you can do anything...

Originally posted by Molecule man
[B]Yeah that's his role which is a important one but that doesn't make him powerful enough to compare agaisnt other cosmics. He is nothing compared to the Celestials!

Where were the Celestials when Abraxas showed up?

Thor drove Galactus away with his godblast LOL

But he has trouble with Juggernaut and Hulk? Right, Thor is da winna. 🙄

If he is full but he never is!!!

I mean after he's consumed a planet and isn't suffering from hunger.

With a cosmic cube you can do anything...

Except that when Magus had like six of them, he wanted the Infinity Gauntlet instead.

Originally posted by Molecule man
Yeah that's his role which is a important one but that doesn't make him powerful enough to compare agaisnt other cosmics. He is nothing compared to the Celestials!

Thor drove Galactus away with his godblast LOL

If he is full but he never is!!!

With a cosmic cube you can do anything...

I am not saying that MM is weak, But he is not more powerful that Galactus.

saying MM is more powerful than galactus makes no sense. at all. i hope i don't start bleeding out of the brain from the sheer stupidity of that statement.

"he can beat Shaper of worlds, Beyonder, Kubik, Phoenix avatars, Galactus, Franklin Richards. "

No he can not beat any old phoenix avatar. Learn your stuff

Originally posted by Molecule man
Yeah that's his role which is a important one but that doesn't make him powerful enough to compare agaisnt other cosmics. He is nothing compared to the Celestials!

Thor drove Galactus away with his godblast LOL

If he is full but he never is!!!

With a cosmic cube you can do anything...

Why, thank you.

hahahaha 😆

Isn't a Cosmic Cube's powers limited in time and space?

That it only extends to one planet, or one solar system
at most, and then only for a limited time?

I remember reading that in one of those Marvel Universe
Handbooks.

My memory may be mistaken though.