Originally posted by Evil Ryu
On a sidenote, the only thing that prevents Kefka from being the most overrated villain of FF is only Sephiroth himself. Seriously, Kefka is really just a mad clown that got lucky. He had no big plan from the start and just improvised. Of course he destroyed the world, became god and all that stuff, but he had it all too easy. He just stands there between a few statues and BAM! Instant god like powers free of charge! Hell, Gau or Mog could have become gods in FFVI! Destroying the earth and becoming a god is so much harder in FFVII universe (you have to go through all the world searching for the black materia, then manipulate people into bringing it to you, then the damn meteor takes like a week to arrive during which you must protect the landing location from everyone and on top of all that you have to deal with Holy protecting the planet!)
Quoted for truth and great justice.
Originally posted by Evil RyuI am going to let one big fvcking cat out of the bag.
Seph has Super Nova of course, but I don't really think the attack is actually the way it's portrayed in the game
You know the solar system destroying animation of Supernova?
Not canon. Nope. In the original Japanese, never happened.
The original, truly canon Japanese portrayed it as simply a distant explosion.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Cause it's true?
Sephiroths will and Jenovas will (Page 53)
The Sephiroth clones seen in various locations continue gathering for the
Reunion. Seemingly, the will of Jenova as a human is the result of it
consuming Sephiroth's spirit; in actuality, Sephiroth is controlling Jenova.
(Accompanying screenshot caption)
Sephiroth's voice is heard through his "mother," Jenova, as applied through
its cells in the Sephiroth Clones.
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Jenova (Pages 210-213) (005.1)
An intelligent lifeform from somewhere in space. Approximately 2000 years ago,
it crashlanded at the North Pole ["Knowlespole" in the English localization of
the game] (the vicinity of Icicle Lodge's ["Icicle Inn" in the English
localization] present location), negatively affecting the Planet; it came to
be feared as "the Calamity from the Skies" by the Ancients, who still existed
in great numbers at that time.
Vicious, extremely aggressive and cunning. Having no thoughts of creating
anything following bringing destruction, it only follows its instincts to
incite ruin , utilizing its mimic ability (-->P.211) to infect other living
organisms with its virus. In addition, due to its abnormal resilence, even if
dismembered, its cells will call out to one another, seeking to reunite into
their original form (-->Reunion/P.211).
The scar Jenova's landing left on the Planet remains even to the present day,
being now known as "the Northern Crater."
(Accompanying screenshot caption)
The parts that are seperated from the main body are still able to function as
extensions. That is what those monsters called "Jenova" are that Cloud and
company fight during the journey.
Professor Gast and the Jenova Project
Approximately 2000 years ago, Jenova collided with the Planet, and although
the Ancients were nearly reduced to extinction, some Ancient survivors
managed to seal Jenova underground in a deep sleep. However, Jenova would
awaken because of Gast's guidance of Shin-Ra's Science Department.
The Ancients(Page 214) (005.2)
The race also called "the Cetra," these people lived on the Planet in ancient
times. The Forgotten Capital and the Temple of the Ancients along with nature
and a single woman are their only remaining traces.
They spoke with the Planet and helped to cultivate it, channeling the
Lifestream to many places, inciting an abundant cycle of life. When Jenova
came from outer space, some of them moved to the North Pole in an attempt to
ease the Planet's wound which had come as a result of the collision [between
the Planet and the meteor Jenova had been riding]. Using its mimic ability,
Jenova got close to the Cetra and released its virus upon them, nearly
driving them to extinction.
Originally posted by NemeBro
What did your post have to do with what I said?Jenova has never taken such force either. She rides planets.
Then crashes the planet she rides into the planet she is attacking.
Note: Pictures can be clicked on to see a higher resolution version.
Approximately 2000 years ago, Jenova collided with the Planet
Approximately 2000 years ago, it crash landed at the North Pole
The scar Jenova's landing left on the Planet remains even to the present day, being now known as "the Northern Crater."
El Oh El Let's go through this:
Approximately 2000 years ago Jenova was moving/riding this:
(The thing completely covered in fire and lightning and whatnot.)
"Sail the cosmos with this planet as my vessel just as my mother did long ago."
Apparently it started off as a planet.
Jenova collided with the FF7 planet, which after 2000 years of the planet healing itself still looked like this:
Comparing the side of the Crater to a Helicopter:
Closeup:
Top view:
Also, it goes a really really really really far way down, even though the planet has tried to heal it. Can you imagine what it was like when it originally hit?
Originally posted by SpadeKing
you can just let sephiroth hit you and hit him for just 1 with cloud and he dies slowly like the roach he is ermm
The intended gameplay is that you are supposed to use Omnislash to defeat him, that is why you specifically learn it right before this fight.
Approximately 2000 years ago, Jenova collided with the PlanetApproximately 2000 years ago, it crash landed at the North Pole
The scar Jenova's landing left on the Planet remains even to the present day, being now known as "the Northern Crater."
So...what's your point? Making a hole on a continent isn't equal to moving continents.
Originally posted by SpadeKing
right before? I thought it was learned during that final cutscene?
What? The intended gameplay is still to hit him with Omnislash.
Originally posted by Luminatus
So...what's your point? Making a hole on a continent isn't equal to moving continents.
...However it is eqaul to or greater then the force required to move a continent. Also, it would have started off a hell of a lot bigger then what we see now.
