The last page of SECRETS OF THE HOUSE OF M gives us a reading list, but no read order if that helps.
well i found it online anyway, its here:
http://marvel.com/publishing/stories/hom/HOM_Checklist.pdf
you're going to need Adobe Acrobat to view it.
The last page of SECRETS OF THE HOUSE OF M gives us a reading list, but no read order if that helps.
well i found it online anyway, its here:
http://marvel.com/publishing/stories/hom/HOM_Checklist.pdf
you're going to need Adobe Acrobat to view it.
New spoilers.
Apparently Bendis wasn't lying when he said HoM wasn't an alternate timeline. In Pulse #10, it's revealed that it's more of an overlay over the actual reality. Hawkeye can see both the HoM world and the real world. The newspaper clipping that recounts Magneto's victory over the Sentinels, he sees as his obituary. So it's not a time travel thing, it's Wanda imposing her will over reality. Except that will apparently is paper thin.
The regular MU still exists. The seeming reality of HoM is like a sheet of paper over the actual reality, like a facade. But if your eyesight is good enough, you can see through the paper.
In the book, Hawkeye was seeing reality not how everyone else is seeing it, but how it was. He sees the reality where he's dead. So the real world still exists, just everyone is seeing it differently.
Ugh. Layla Miller SUCKS. And HoM #4 does NOT star the ENTIRE Marvel Universe. Neither does any other issue of the series.
I'm very mad about this Layla Miller thing. Her mutant power is WAAAAAY to easy and simple for this awful dilemma that's befallen the Marvel Universe.
Originally posted by long pig
New spoilers.Apparently Bendis wasn't lying when he said HoM wasn't an alternate timeline. In Pulse #10, it's revealed that it's more of an overlay over the actual reality. Hawkeye can see both the HoM world and the real world. The newspaper clipping that recounts Magneto's victory over the Sentinels, he sees as his obituary. So it's not a time travel thing, it's Wanda imposing her will over reality. Except that will apparently is paper thin.
The regular MU still exists. The seeming reality of HoM is like a sheet of paper over the actual reality, like a facade. But if your eyesight is good enough, you can see through the paper.
In the book, Hawkeye was seeing reality not how everyone else is seeing it, but how it was. He sees the reality where he's dead. So the real world still exists, just everyone is seeing it differently.
That's interesting. Lasting repurcussions seem inevitable. So...is Hawkeye going to return to the living? Maybe he never died in the first place. It was just a reversible factor of Wanda's powers?
JUST READ HOUSE OF M #5
Spoiler:
Good issue, I liked it, not too bad. Their little recruiting drive is a bit forced; Peter's reaction was "Ahh, damn..poor guy." I wonder why every artist finds it his life's goal to draw either MJ saying her "jackpot" line or Gwen's neck breaking with the SNAP. Well whatever...BIGGEST SPOILER YET...XAVIER IS DEAD. Last panel is a memorial with a large rock that says, on a plaque, "Xavier Memorial Garden. He died so Genosha could live." OMGOMOGMOGMGOGM SPAZ SPAZ FREAKING OUT HERE...
Originally posted by munkiesarus
Ugh. Layla Miller SUCKS. And HoM #4 does NOT star the ENTIRE Marvel Universe. Neither does any other issue of the series.I'm very mad about this Layla Miller thing. Her mutant power is WAAAAAY to easy and simple for this awful dilemma that's befallen the Marvel Universe.
That's interesting. Lasting repurcussions seem inevitable. So...is Hawkeye going to return to the living? Maybe he never died in the first place. It was just a reversible factor of Wanda's powers?
Heres what I don;t get. Wanda capped a bunch of people, but in HOM she brings them back to life. Why not Jean?? Also, does Mystique have a hidden desire for Logan?
Originally posted by long pig
New spoilers.Apparently Bendis wasn't lying when he said HoM wasn't an alternate timeline. In Pulse #10, it's revealed that it's more of an overlay over the actual reality. Hawkeye can see both the HoM world and the real world. The newspaper clipping that recounts Magneto's victory over the Sentinels, he sees as his obituary. So it's not a time travel thing, it's Wanda imposing her will over reality. Except that will apparently is paper thin.
The regular MU still exists. The seeming reality of HoM is like a sheet of paper over the actual reality, like a facade. But if your eyesight is good enough, you can see through the paper.
In the book, Hawkeye was seeing reality not how everyone else is seeing it, but how it was. He sees the reality where he's dead. So the real world still exists, just everyone is seeing it differently.
Marvel has promised that at least one of these will be a reality when the dust from the House of M event wraps. (May contain spoilers.)
1) The number of mutants living on Earth will be reduced from over 60,000 to 300 maximum, returning the X-Men to their familiar perch on the edge of extinction.
2) The Ultimate and regular Marvel Universes will merge and become one, tying in to the events of Ultimate Fantastic Four.
3) Thor, the deceased Asgardian God of Thunder, will make his triumphant return to the land of the living after kicking Magneto's tyrannical [butt].
4) Dr. Strange, the only man powerful enough to stop Scarlet Witch in "Avengers Disassembled," saves the day but pays the ultimate price. He'll be replaced by Wanda, Sorceress Supreme.
5) Peter Parker is no longer married to Mary Jane.
6) Daredevil's secret identity becomes secret again.
How can they tie in the Ultimate Universe and Regular Marvel Universe? I mean, they're on totally different time lines first of all. How are they going to tie in a bunch of Teenage X-Men, Fantastic 4, Spider Man, and a child Iron Man with 40 year old heroes?
Also, they said that after HOM, a BIG thing was going to happen. Peter Parker getting divorced, Thor returning, and DD's I.D. being reconcealed are not huge things.
Another thing, Dr. Strange is definitely not a main character, or powerful enough to stop Wanda at this point.
Lastly, whiping out all those mutants to just 300 is a mass genocide that would involve killing alot of humans with X positive gene's. And it's stated that homo sapiens are dieing out, which means that alot of homo sapiens are X gene positive. That woul be whiping out over a billion current and pre-mutant people to just 300.
I think you got some facts mixed up or are making them up.
Sorry but all that was a direct word-for-word quote from Brian Michael Bendis from Wizard Magazine, issue #165, page 26. So no, I have ALL my fact straight. I have the magazine right here in my lap while I'm typing this.
They said that Wanda has been subtly alter the Marvel Universe bit by bit for some time now. Any of those things can be explained that way. How?
1) The number of mutants living on Earth will be reduced from over 60,000 to 300 maximum, returning the X-Men to their familiar perch on the edge of extinction.
Have it that Wanda has been making this happen, and alot of people that thought they were mutants, aren't really mutants. Hell, in the House of M she's already done the reverse to herself.
2) The Ultimate and regular Marvel Universes will merge and become one, tying in to the events of Ultimate Fantastic Four.
In Ultimate Fantastic Four right now, they've just begun to discover and explore parallel realities, and it's rumored that by the time the story arc is over, they will have an encounter with the 616 core Marvel reality.
3) Thor, the deceased Asgardian God of Thunder, will make his triumphant return to the land of the living after kicking Magneto's tyrannical ass.
They could play it to where the whole Ragnarok affair that took place was because of something Wanda did.
4) Dr. Strange, the only man powerful enough to stop Scarlet Witch in "Avengers Disassembled," saves the day but pays the ultimate price. He'll be replaced by Wanda, Sorceress Supreme.
This could play out in MANY different ways.
5) Peter Parker is no longer married to Mary Jane.
How do you think YOUR wife would react if she found out that in your ideal life, you were married to another woman.
6) Daredevil's secret identity becomes secret again.
As long as they're messing with people's minds on a global level, they might as well fix his problems.
Don't get mad at me, these were Bendis' words, not mine.
How can they tie in the Ultimate Universe and Regular Marvel Universe? I mean, they're on totally different time lines first of all. How are they going to tie in a bunch of Teenage X-Men, Fantastic 4, Spider Man, and a child Iron Man with 40 year old heroes?
Lastly, whiping out all those mutants to just 300 is a mass genocide that would involve killing alot of humans with X positive gene's. And it's stated that homo sapiens are dieing out, which means that alot of homo sapiens are X gene positive. That woul be whiping out over a billion current and pre-mutant people to just 300.
Just because a copy one someone exist in another universe, doesn't mean that a person can't go to that universe. The first alternate universe that Ultimate Reed Richards went to had been taken over by vampires a few days before he got there. He ran into a vampire counterpart of himself that tried to eat him, but was saved by the last surviving person on the planet with superpowers - Magneto.
My take on Wizard's rumours, but before that, I've been reading a lot of news lately and everything Post-HoM is supposed to be very bad times for the X-Men and the Marvel Universe in general. Just last issue we've discovered
Spoiler:is dead, but something tells me its only the first in a long list of casualties (including people like Misty Knight and a bunch of the Human Resitance Movements folks). Anyway, a bunch of the news has been saying that after House of M, the X-Men are still going to have different teams; but since Astonishing X-Men comes to an end; those characters will have to go somewhere, and in turn, all of the X-Men will be appearing in each other's books a lot.
Xavier
Anyway, here;
The number of mutants living on Earth will be reduced from over 60,000 to 300 maximum, returning the X-Men to their familiar perch on the edge of extinction.
Definitely possible, and since HoM shows us that the world has been turned into a Mutant paradise, the tables could be turned definitely. 300 mutants seems very low, and adding that maximum doesn't help. Chance = high.
The Ultimate and regular Marvel Universes will merge and become one, tying in to the events of Ultimate Fantastic Four.
Marvel seemed very eager to shove that Ultimate FF issue with Ultimate and 616 Reed and that portal between them into our faces, and I highly suspect this to be a red herring. The Ultimate Universe rocks, but the only crossover I'd ever want between the two would be Ultimate Dazzler. Chance = low.
Thor, the deceased Asgardian God of Thunder, will make his triumphant return to the land of the living after kicking Magneto's tyrannical [butt].
It would be a nice cliffhanger for the last page of Issue 7 or something, after all Thor is supremely awesome sometimes. It's possible, I think people want Thor back. Chance = medium.
Dr. Strange, the only man powerful enough to stop Scarlet Witch in "Avengers Disassembled," saves the day but pays the ultimate price. He'll be replaced by Wanda, Sorceress Supreme.[quote]Possible, and it sounds very Marvel-ish. I say this one is likely; after all Dr. Strange certaintly wants to help Wanda and he was the one who told the Avengers that she was behind dissassembled. Maybe..maybe not. Let's see. Chance = iffy, but possible.
[quote]Peter Parker is no longer married to Mary Jane.
Who even CARES anymore? She was only cool in Marvel Knights: Spider-Man, and I think outside of that she's annoying. Sure, leave him MJ; most of us will not be in tears.
Daredevil's secret identity becomes secret again.
Sure, it's not a major repurcussion [terribly misspelled, I believe], but it should happen. Give the X-Men their secret identities back and you have a done deal..though this isn't something terribly major.