Nothingness

hey calvin,
u dont have to have a degree in philosophy to have or understand philosophy, its ur thoughts that matter.

Hi calvin, yea we just like to talk about all the possibilities!!

And I did say earlier that we are apart of nonthingness and nothingness is apart of us. 😄

"Can nothingness exist?" is a ridiculous question. The two words: "nothingness" and "exist" are already opposites and exclusive in meaning. "Nothingness" is merely a recoil of conscious being - an absurd thought.

So Space Nothing will never exist. Something will always exist? In your thoughts. Am I understanding you correctly?

There's always something...The stronger the microscope the more you can see...The atoms, the protons, the wave forms...etc. Always something...

I dont think nothingness has an existance persay.. its just the void of empty space that is unoccupied by any matter.. even if that matter might be atoms or cells or larger. I dont think theres any true nothingness.. perhaps an overgrown child of the minds foolishness to lay question on itself

You guys are not following - "nothingness" and "existence" are opposites, period. It doesn't make sense to talk of a relationship between the two. Empty space is also something, NOT nothingness - nothingess is the absence of being as such, there is only being - only "somethingness" - we cannot talk of nothingness, as being is all we have.

Empty space is not something because it implies nothingness, as the space would be empty (as in 'nothing there' or 'unoccupied'😉.. it may be occupied by smaller somethings, but not ALL of the space is occupied.. there may be very small gaps of nothingness, but there are most likely gaps none the less.. and I dont think they are talking about just an area around them.. they mean in any location in the universe.. and im sure in that retrospect there is a 'nothingness'

...zzz.....please god help me here........'nothingness' means nothing. In being/existence there cannot be nothingness, because then there will be an unbreachable gap in being. Space is NOT nothingess, space is still something, otherwise we won't be able to talk about it, duh! Being is solidly being - there is no place for nothingness, as that would be a logical contradiction

but thats what Im saying, there is a nothingness in-between the spaces of existance.. existances dont inter-connect seamlessly or we would all be a single consciousness

I think we have a definition conflict here - how do you define 'nothingness"?

where no matter exists .. nothing living anyway

"where no matter exists .. nothing living anyway"

I think that's abit limiting the concept of nothingness. Being/existence does not only mean the existence of matter. I agree that there are open spaces where no matter exists, BUT we cannot say that there is nothingess wherever there is no matter. Where there is no matter, there can be something else - a something, but that something is not matter. What I mean by nothingness is the absence of any being or existence as such - non-existence in the most extreme and absolute sense. There are things beside matter, like anti-matter, quantum energy fields, etc.

Originally posted by space
I think we have a definition conflict here - how do you define 'nothingness"?

Exabyte, you have the right idea here - nothingness being:

"the absence of matter as well as the absence of above and below, of before and of after, of time and existance itself".

BUT I don't agree with:

"A nothingness as it, according to modern physics, 'exists' or just is 'outside' the universe or there were no universe is, a nothingness as it is assumed to have existed before the big bang"

I don't believe in the Big Bang, or any origin to existence for that matter - it's all infinite/eternal - no beginning, no end.

satsujin, i think what space is tryin toi say is that even in empty space, tou have dimension{length width and height}, and we also know that space is not as empty as we think, there are a million different processes going on in empty space that do not require for it to have mass particles.

Why are they starting to restrict people for no reasons??

I would think they are restricting philo because of his past record and his flagrant disreard of the moderators' authority.

I think nothingness only exists in the minds of those who are already dead. But if they are dead they are not alive to see it. It can't be seen cause it's not even pitch black and when your dead you don't even see pitch black but if you didn't see even that then obviously it's inpossible to see which is why only dead people see it. It's just meant to be that in life there is no such thing as getting the experience of seeing nothing therefore you wouldn't be apart of life. iT's hard for me to explain.

As a kid, when I'd try to imagine what it would be like if there was absolutely nothing, I'd picture a big black empty space. Now, I realize that a big black empty space is indeed 'something' . . . so what is 'nothing'??? 😕