Nate Grey Vs Silver Surfer

When he realized he couldn't reason, he gave it his best at SS, and SS just got back up and blasted him away. I've read enough SS comics to know that SS wasn't even fighting. You know he's fighting hard when he starts getting angry and causing very large explosions. The guy has the power to destroy an entire state.... sheesh.

nataku it looks like u missed more than a few xman comics, cause otherwise ud know that even when nate was not powerful enough to control his powers at ALL, he still destroyed a whole state with a SINGLE PSIONIC BLAST, plus he had easily enough energy to wipe out earth's entire population if he lost control, he is much more powerful than cable, he defeated the harvesters single handedly and when he sacrificed himself, he had enough energy to completely rejuvinate the depleted life force of the entire planet and its occupants, he could stop time itself,

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
"He was on par with the likes of X-Man and Dark Phoenix"

Major exaggeration cable never has and never will be on par with dark phoenix. Dark phoenix was retconned back in 86 to just be a weak manifestation of the phoenix force who was power hungry. That wasnt how she was originally written and thankfully now after GrantM's run the idea that the being who saved the multiverse from the M'kraan and the being that destroyed d'bari are one has been reverted back to which makes more sense. Jean always is phoenix and she would murder cable.

Not entirely. Read ( Cable vol #1. Issue #29. ) It states that both X-Man and Cable have powers that are on par with Dark Phoenix. That's where I read it and since then it was never retconned in the CABLE comics.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
When he realized he couldn't reason, he gave it his best at SS, and SS just got back up and blasted him away. I've read enough SS comics to know that SS wasn't even fighting. You know he's fighting hard when he starts getting angry and causing very large explosions. The guy has the power to destroy an entire state.... sheesh.

nataku it looks like u missed more than a few xman comics, cause otherwise ud know that even when nate was not powerful enough to control his powers at ALL, he still destroyed a whole state with a SINGLE PSIONIC BLAST, plus he had easily enough energy to wipe out earth's entire population if he lost control, he is much more powerful than cable, he defeated the harvesters single handedly and when he sacrificed himself, he had enough energy to completely rejuvinate the depleted life force of the entire planet and its occupants, he could stop time itself,

Nate would take down SS badly.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Nate would take down SS badly.

Silver Surfer would die.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
nataku it looks like u missed more than a few xman comics, cause otherwise ud know that even when nate was not powerful enough to control his powers at ALL, he still destroyed a whole state with a SINGLE PSIONIC BLAST, plus he had easily enough energy to wipe out earth's entire population if he lost control, he is much more powerful than cable, he defeated the harvesters single handedly and when he sacrificed himself, he had enough energy to completely rejuvinate the depleted life force of the entire planet and its occupants, he could stop time itself,

Dude... Silver surfer has the power to destroy entire planets. He went up against Mephisto, in the netherworld, and still beat his ass.

Telepathy don't work too good when you get hit at the speed of light. Nevermind the fact that if SS was really trying to beat Nate and not get him to stop, he wouldn't have done what he did. Notice SS let Cable explain himself, he didn't actually do anything but fly with him until Cable attacked him. Cable grunted as he destroyed his board, a sign of exertion, he blast SS with two psi blasts, yet SS got back up like it was nothing. SS made ONE attack and put cable out of the fight.

Silver surfer enchanted Shalla Bal's soul so that it caused plantlife to grow wherever she walked on his homeworld that Galactus had sucked dry. Silver surfer has traveled through time by moving fast enough.

Look dude, Nate Grey and Cable are nice and tough, but you're talking about a cosmic being. Someone who moves at 99% the speed of light, who can manipulate matter, Silver Surfer has more power than you seem to comprehend.

Surfer can fly at 100x the speed of light

Originally posted by Wynndar
Surfer can fly at 100x the speed of light

How about ... no. He can travel at 99% the speed of light.

Silver Surfer doens't have pwoer as you imagine, you are really overrating him.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
How about ... no. He can travel at 99% the speed of light.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Silver Surfer doens't have pwoer as you imagine, you are really overrating him.

Everything we've said he can do, he has done.

Nate grey would slow SS down and be able to flee. SS is indestructable so....

Originally posted by HarmoNiC FLo
Nate grey would slow SS down and be able to flee. SS is indestructable so....

He won't see him coming. Surfer can move at least the speed of light, and can accelerate to top speed almost instantly. He'll remove Nate's head before the fight even gets going.

**** the speed blitz theory. speed blitzing is stupid, there's a reason why nobody does it.

Which is?

just because hes fast doesnt make him invincible, if you look at the amount of POWER they both have then nate grey has definately more than the surfer, he can STOP TIME in given zones remember, i can just as easily put up the argument that nate will just slow or stop time for the surfer so the surfer cant move at or beyond lightspeeds, lightspeed in itself does not winn you a battle.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
just because hes fast doesnt make him invincible, if you look at the amount of POWER they both have then nate grey has definately more than the surfer, he can STOP TIME in given zones remember, i can just as easily put up the argument that nate will just slow or stop time for the surfer so the surfer cant move at or beyond lightspeeds, lightspeed in itself does not winn you a battle.

Nate grey can't do that in under a hundreth of a second. That's how fast Surfer will cover 10 miles.

You simply say Speedblitzing is stupid because the fighter you back can't do it. Simply put, speedblitzing isn't used because then comics would be boring and wouldn't sell for shit.

Originally posted by kgkg
faster than light

Only in warp. C+ velocities do not exist in normal space time. Natuka is right in Warp his is faster than light in normal space he is at 99% , although how he does this without his mass being infinite, ergo needing an infinite amount of power to move it is beyond me.

Originally posted by Nataku8188
How about ... no. He can travel at 99% the speed of light.

How about...NO.

Silver Surfer travels many many times the speed of light.

The closest galaxy to the Milky Way is several light years away and Silver Surfer travels that distance in minutes....not years.

"Not entirely. Read ( Cable vol #1. Issue #29. ) It states that both X-Man and Cable have powers that are on par with Dark Phoenix. That's where I read it and since then it was never retconned in the CABLE comics."

It didnt need to be retconned in the cable comics what r u talking about? My point was that dark phoenix was retconned into being just a weak manifestation of the phoenix back in 86. That stood till the recent GM run on new xmen which reverted dark phoenix to being jean as it was originally intended therefore binning that idea of dark phoenix being a power hungry comparatively weak manifestation of the phoenix force. The issue where cable and xman were said to potentially be on par with the dark phoenix happened before she was retconned back into her original state. Do u get what i was saying now?