Okay here are Surfers powers: He possesses the Power Cosmic (an energy source capable of almost any feat imaginable) and weilds a near indestructable Surfboard that travels faster than the speed of light.
His power cosmic is so powerful that it's difficult to find a good fight against Surfer because he can do and has done just about anything.
Matter-manipulation, the power reserves of stars, traveling at lightspeed, ability to endow himself with Class 100 strength, a resistanance to telepathy, ability to stand at the center of a super-nova without breaking a sweat, energy manipulation powers allowing him to absorb almost any type of energy...
With Nate's powers and abillities, how can he combat all that and plus some?
what you people dont understand is that you can't always argue vs topics with power levels. you have to look at what powers you're talking about. if i had the power to crap with 100x the speed of light, what would i do facing the hulk? of course i'd have more free time on my hands.
the point is nate grey isn't crapping at 100x the speed of light which is sad 🙁 but he's potentially the most power psi in the universe. if you understand what that is then you know that anything goes. there is no limit to what he can do, he can create living beings like he did with madelyne prior..its not like she was see-thru either. he can pretty much mind control all mutants within a thousand square mile radius against the surfernarlydude, while somewhere in i duno canada? projecting a false self image in where ever the battle is.
No outside helpUnless specified otherwise, no contestant may call for outside assistance, even in scenario matches. For example, Captain America cannot call in the Avengers during a fight with Batman
That is from the rules. The original poster did not specify. While that is a part of his powers, it is bordering that rule.
Yeah, Nate may be... MAY BE powerful enough to get through Surfer's resistance to telepathy, but Surfer still has enough extra powers to spare that he could use to win this. I think Nate would still lose.
i'm confused, surfer's board is supposed to be even more indestructable than he is right?
well why didn't god cable just blow up surfer? if he can blow up the board with effort, i'm sure he could blow up surfer with a serious strain.
i just changed my mind, the only reason god cable lost that fight was because he had to.
and nate is stronger than god cable. he's the real thing, son of phoenix and cyclops. cable is a test tube clone baby. and x-man has done some REALLY impressive stuff, like resurrecting/healing madeline pryor.
Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
i'm confused, surfer's board is supposed to be even more indestructable than he is right?well why didn't god cable just blow up surfer? if he can blow up the board with effort, i'm sure he could blow up surfer with a serious strain.
i just changed my mind, the only reason god cable lost that fight was because he had to.
and nate is stronger than god cable. he's the real thing, son of phoenix and cyclops. cable is a test tube clone baby. and x-man has done some REALLY impressive stuff, like resurrecting/healing madeline pryor.
The board isn't supposed to be more indestructable than him. it's been destroyed several times before, and he's recreated it with a wave of his hand every time. Surfer has had his body chopped into pieces and still fought on.
Originally posted by Nataku8188
The board isn't supposed to be more indestructable than him. it's been destroyed several times before, and he's recreated it with a wave of his hand every time. Surfer has had his body chopped into pieces and still fought on.
Firelord , Cable etc.
Anyone know how strong surfers telepathic defence is? Since he's indestructable or wutever...nate can leave telekinesis out of this.
I doubt surfers resistence out-does nates offensive potential.
And what if nate mind controls a 1000 of the strongest characters gainst surfer...what then?
There's a lot of cosmo-politan loving like the magazine goin on here
Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
i'm confused, surfer's board is supposed to be even more indestructable than he is right?well why didn't god cable just blow up surfer? if he can blow up the board with effort, i'm sure he could blow up surfer with a serious strain.
i just changed my mind, the only reason god cable lost that fight was because he had to.
and nate is stronger than god cable. he's the real thing, son of phoenix and cyclops. cable is a test tube clone baby. and x-man has done some REALLY impressive stuff, like resurrecting/healing madeline pryor.
Why didn't cable blow surfer up? Simple, because that'd be a crime towards cosmopolitan fans. They'd no longer have the "but...but... he's INVINCIBLE" argument.
Good post - I agree that nate is above cable and under-estimated. But actually nate is the test tube clone baby - which is why he's more powerfull. He was genetically augmented by sinister to have the best possible traits from the paternal and maternal DNA of the summers'. That includes mutant power of course. He is the prime result of cyclops and pheonix. Imagine giving your son your BEST genes along with your spouse...obviously if your not a moron you can imagine the results.
Originally posted by hoorayforpeepee
i'm confused, surfer's board is supposed to be even more indestructable than he is right?well why didn't god cable just blow up surfer? if he can blow up the board with effort, i'm sure he could blow up surfer with a serious strain.
i just changed my mind, the only reason god cable lost that fight was because he had to.
and nate is stronger than god cable. he's the real thing, son of phoenix and cyclops. cable is a test tube clone baby. and x-man has done some REALLY impressive stuff, like resurrecting/healing madeline pryor.
Why didn't cable blow surfer up? Simple, because that'd be a crime towards cosmopolitan fans. They'd no longer have the "but...but... he's INVINCIBLE" argument.
Good post - I agree that nate is above cable and under-estimated. But actually nate is the test tube clone baby - which is why he's more powerfull. He was genetically augmented by sinister to have the best possible traits from the paternal and maternal DNA of the summers'. That includes mutant power of course. He is the prime result of cyclops and pheonix. Imagine giving your son your BEST genes along with your spouse...obviously if your not a moron you can imagine the results.
Oops double post...I'm on a sidekick mobile device..
Nates TP ..telepathy.. Is the most powerfull brand. He pretty much saved the world yet no one knows of it. He's created beings out of thin air and this is when he did it subconsiously.. I mean cmon he pulled xavier out of the astral plane like a kid making trouble at kmart.
A seasoned, focused and at full potential Nate Grey could go up against Galactus - mark down as a fact.
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