I wish that Superman would have preptime too...
"Hey, Batman, can you make me an lead suit that protects me from kryptonite, coated with some super-resistant material so the X-Men can't break it? Oh yeah, and something that blocks red sunlight?"
"Sure, Superman."
"Ok. I have to go to see Martian Manhunter to see if he can make me some psi-blocks."
But I think that with the prep time, X-Men win...
Originally posted by illadelph12
I know he 'should', but Supes is, well, for lack of a better term, a pussy. He should bust dudes heads in 1-3 panels, but he likes to 'talk things through' and handle things civil. I don't know if he's a victim of the feminist movement or just plain naive, but Supes character doesn't have a killer instinct unless properly provoked, and it takes a while to provoke him that far. To quote George Carlin, he's a victim of 'pussification'. It's just his character. He's noble, polite, good, wholesome:and it sickens me. 😆
🙁 how sad for you nobility, politeness and being wholesome sickens you 😕
Originally posted by illadelph12
Exactly. I agree with that 100%. Batman would move in and disable them before they could react if he had Supes powers and Bruce's mindset. That's in his (Bats) character. He has no problem fighting dirty, he just won't kill unless necessary.Supes, on the other hand, would fly in and be like "You can't defeat me. I suggest you give up now" and let the X-Men BS him with stuff like explaining their cause or whatever without snappin' their necks, and that would be his downfall. It's 1 part over confidence in his powers and 3 parts of being raised a naive, wholesome country boy that sees the good in people and is 'pure of heart'. I'm surprised his costume isn't composed of sugar and spice.
🙄 and of course Supes loses all the time like that 🙄
Originally posted by whirlysplat
🙁 how sad for you nobility, politeness and being wholesome sickens you 😕
I have no problem with someone being good natured, but not overly and blindly to the point of naivity disguised as good natured. More times than not turning the other cheek leaves your jugular exposed.
I guess I'm just a product of my environment.
Originally posted by illadelph12
I have no problem with someone being good natured, but not overly and blindly to the point of naivity disguised as good natured. More times than not turning the other cheek leaves your jugular exposed.I guess I'm just a product of my environment.
Thats right blame the environment. Never mistake politeness for weakness it usually is not. Speak gently and carry a big stick. Supes never turns the other cheek, he is just controlled and not a prisoner to hate, fear and anger. Only those who are scared normally react in an uncontrolled fashion, using more than reasonable force.
Originally posted by whirlysplat
Thats right blame the environment. Never mistake politeness for weakness it usually is not. Speak gently and carry a big stick. Supes never turns the other cheek, he is just controlled and not a prisoner to hate, fear and anger. Only those who are scared normally react in an uncontrolled fashion, using more than reasonable force.
No, I'm not blaming the 'environment'.
Life experiences sculpt your outlook. You gain those experiences in your 'environment'. You take 2 identical twins, you place one to grow up poor in a war torn country, and the other to grow up financially stable in the suburbs of a wealthy nation, they are going to have different outlooks on life.
Simple concept.
Superman was raised a pussy in Kansas. Batman watched his parents murdered in front of his eyes.
Different outlooks
And no, using more than reasonable force is not a sign of fear. It can be a tactic to instill fear in others as well. If you do it right the first time and instill that fear in your opponent, they're less likely to act out of kind.
That's called 'discipline'.
Parents used to be masters of the art before the 'Time Out' epidemic of the 90's.
It's kind of sad that people call superman a pussy. Because routinely risking your life to save millions definately makes you as pussy...Just because you could kill someone doesn't mean you should. He stands for what is right.
Oh and my vote still goes to supes sure he has his weaknesses but he's very hard to kill. I don't think the x-men are that much of a danger. Without kryptonite they're toast. With they have more of a chance but he should be able to spot any possible traps fairly easy.
I know someone is going to say "but they can use lead" lead or no lead I personally think he would think something is a little sketchy with the x-men who if they existed he would know of as the good guys acting so out of character.
Originally posted by illadelph12
No, I'm not blaming the 'environment'.Life experiences sculpt your outlook. You gain those experiences in your 'environment'. You take 2 identical twins, you place one to grow up poor in a war torn country, and the other to grow up financially stable in the suburbs of a wealthy nation, they are going to have different outlooks on life.
Simple concept.
Superman was raised a pussy in Kansas. Batman watched his parents murdered in front of his eyes.
Different outlooks
And no, using more than reasonable force is not a sign of fear. It can be a tactic to instill fear in others as well. If you do it right the first time and instill that fear in your opponent, they're less likely to act out of kind.
That's called 'discipline'.
Parents used to be masters of the art before the 'Time Out' epidemic of the 90's.
I see 🙂 so socilogy is your strong point, and you believe a negative experience has to lead to a violent outlook 😄 fascinating. I knew a young man from Somalia, he had watched his whole village attacked men layed low, broken and killed, including his father. Many women raped murdered and disfigured including his mother and sisters. Many children disfigured and yet when his anger had gone, (I knew him both when he first arrived in the UK as a refugee and later), his views were that violence should be a last resort, is that because he had seen so much I wonder. So your environment is tough is it 🙂 I wonder 🙄
I'm not one that gets petty over things like spelling Whirly. Don't trip. We're only human.
When you grow up surrounded by death like your acquaintance, yes, it will change your outlook. Your acquaintance seems to be a good man, all things considered. Better than me, I'm not too prideful to admit that. I'd want the heads of those that murdered my loved ones. My outlook isn't 'violent' per se, I'm simply not against taking violent measures when necessary.
I'm not an advocate of murder, but I am an advocate of the death penalty in some instances, if that makes sense. I personally feel some situations and crimes merit extreme measures and extreme discipline. Genocide is not by any means an act that can be condoned, and I don't feel a person guilty of participating in the crime is redeemable, so yes, I'd kill them if I had the opportunity. Retaliating against the perpetrators of an act like that with lethal force is in my eyes completely rational. Someone like, say, Milosevic or the Warlords in Sudan shouldn't get a 'trial' in my eyes. Death should be the sentence.
Now, I also feel the same way about other criminals in certain cases, like serial rapists, serial killers, and serial pedophiles. I don't feel they should be given a chance to commit crimes like that again, and I don't feel counselling is a suitable alternative. You can't give their victims back their lives or innocence, so why should the criminal get a second chance at a decent life? Other crimes like say drug related crimes, robbery, etc., I have a diffent view on [I won't elaborate because this could become an essay].
As for me, I'm in the US. I was born in Brooklyn, NY and now reside in Oakland, CA. I've seen and experienced things that have made me cynical, to say the least. Not to the extent of your acquaintance, but I've seen things.
You can probably summize my ethnicity.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I actually think that Superman could resist mental assaults.I mean, if Storm can...surely Superman is more strong minded. And he has Torquasm-Rao.
um... storm resists psychic assaults because electricity is linked to the psychic field, in the marvel universe anyway. Its explained as her "scrambling" the electrical field around her.
^^^^ yep, yep, yep balrog is right. storm has electricity in her brain, and can create a statis and lightning field that scrambles psionis attack. combine that backed up by her will which can resist some of the strongest drugs she is one of the hardest minds to get into. even rachel summers addmitted that she had to be real close to storm to do anything psionic to her. then when she got close enough she said that it was good they got there in time cause a few more seconds and no matter how hard she tried she wouldn't have been able to affect her kmind
i was backing up balrog and someone refered that if storm can stand up to telepaths then so can supes and i said that cause its not just storms will that helps her. if you had read tyhe last few pages instead of just posting regardless then you would have known that. and i didn't say the electricity in her brain will help her resist drugs when i said that i was talking about her will. her will is so strong she can shake off the strongest of drugs
Originally posted by stormfront13
i was backing up balrog and someone refered that if storm can stand up to telepaths then so can supes and i said that cause its not just storms will that helps her. if you had read tyhe last few pages instead of just posting regardless then you would have known that.
and i didn't say the electricity in her brain will help her resist drugs when i said that i was talking about her will. her will is so strong she can shake off the strongest of drugs
Originally posted by stormfront13Combine her electric brain and will and she can resist the drugs?
[B]storm has electricity in her brain, and can create a statis and lightning field that scrambles psionis attack. combine that backed up by her will which can resist some of the strongest drugs.../B]