Cyber vs Deathstroke vs Spider-Man

Started by jinzin32 pages

too much for spidey......that's my guess at least...

personally I'm inclined to think that the whole 40x faster reflexes thing is an overestimation in spiderman's case...if he were..no one would ever hit him....EVER! fact is, the pic that is reffered to over and over again is nothing more than spiderman claiming to be 40X faster in reflexes....how would peter know? what did he do some sort of test? does he have that much time on his hands between his super heroing, personal life, school, and work?....pffft...

40x human reaction speed, he could create sonic booms with his arms.
It's hard to believe......but if it's documented....unless you want to call it PIS.

nope I don't use that pis crapload of an excuse for an arguement...

I just think that him being 15x faster than a skinny weakling parker body, and having a sort of precog to back it up puts him in a very good standing with reaction time....40x however? no....I just think peter parker was overestimating his own abilities.... like when apocalypse claims to be the strongest force in the universe/world/etc when there are clearly more powerful beings than himself...like I said how would parker know to a T that he's got 40x reaction speed..?

He wouldn't.

so I gotta ds question.....in the early deathstroke comics there was a stroy arc with batman...did they fight in that arc?

There were two story arcs with batman in early DS.

Was it the one where Batman tried to get DS to turn himself in?
Or the one where Batman is trying to steer DS away from assassinating a asian crimelord?

did they fight in either of em? which issues if so?

They fight every time they meet, it's like wolvie/sabretooth thing.

In the Asian guy arc, Slade tries to assassinate this crimeboss/president from a high rooftop, he positions himself and batman comes behind him and attacks, Slade K.O's him. Slade goes up another story for a better look, batman comes again, Slade K.O's him again, Slade says "Try that again and I'll kill you" or something. Slade goes up another flight to the very top, aims, then out of no where, Batman kicks him off the roof. lol

The other arc was Slade attempting to assassinate some rich lady(?), batman comes, Slade tells him to go, Batman tries to force him to turn him self in, Slade kicks his ass a little but before blowing Bat's head off with his plasma staff, Slades target is spotted and he runs off after her.

DS#1-7 DS#11-14
I'll get back to you on the exact numbers though.

cool...thanks..

#7 and #14 to be exact. 😄

#7 is where the quote under my sig comes from, Slade found out Batmans identity, and was being a bad ass about it.

Originally posted by jinzin
no...I know what you're talking about...it's in a spiderman anniversary issue....spiderman is shown to be all over the hulk hitting him from multiple angles while hulk appears to be in a stationary position.... spiderman claims his reflexes to be forty times faster than a normal person's which makes sense since he can be alerted of danger before it even gets near him...it has nothing to do with his overall speed however......

thats what I mean combat, put in the reflexes and hits and he's really fast, i'm not talking about running speed. however.

Originally posted by jinzin
personally I'm inclined to think that the whole 40x faster reflexes thing is an overestimation in spiderman's case...if he were..no one would ever hit him....EVER! fact is, the pic that is reffered to over and over again is nothing more than spiderman claiming to be 40X faster in reflexes....how would peter know? what did he do some sort of test? does he have that much time on his hands between his super heroing, personal life, school, and work?....pffft...

he bounces around that fast, not necessarily think, write type, as those take more thought than simply striking and dodging, especially when he's riled up.

How did you say DS was beating cyber.

Originally posted by Wanderer259
Reflexes are a mind-related issue, not body-related. Thus, it is his reflexes - they're just enhanced so much because his mind is similarly so.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one friend. Reflexes are in the Dexterity and not the intelligence category, thus people on this forum are very intelligent, but their reflexes may be poor from being out of shape or lack of practice.

Acrobatics and gymnists have great dexterity, as it is actually physical intelligence, but not mental, I'm pretty sure some of the smartest people have poor reflexes.

Unless of course you meant enhanced so the signals are faster, but spidy's body is enhanced more physical wise, leading me to believe he has more movement dexterity.

His unorthodox fighting style make him harder to predict, his speed alone isn't enough to keep slade down.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one friend. Reflexes are in the Dexterity and not the intelligence category, thus people on this forum are very intelligent, but their reflexes may be poor from being out of shape or lack of practice.

Not the mind as in intelligence, but the connection of the mind and the body. A reflex is a reaction to presented stimuli. The mind observes, processes, and sends the necessary signals to the necessary parts of the body to react; the body does not react on its own. Thus, it's a mind issue, not a physical issue like strength is (for the most part).

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
he bounces around that fast, not necessarily think, write type, as those take more thought than simply striking and dodging, especially when he's riled up.

How did you say DS was beating cyber.

gases cyber enough to make him slow down and shoots himin the face with his shot gun or zaps him in the face with his pole....if he can hit impulse this shouldn't be a problem....

Originally posted by Wanderer259
Not the mind as in intelligence, but the connection of the mind and the body. A reflex is a reaction to presented stimuli. The mind observes, processes, and sends the necessary signals to the necessary parts of the body to react; the body does not react on its own. Thus, it's a mind issue, not a physical issue like strength is (for the most part).

but muscles get used to reacting a certain way and doing certain tasks. if someone played/practiced basketball all day every day, eventually the muscles in his arms would be perfectly fit for shooting a basket.

Yes practice helps reflexes.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
His unorthodox fighting style make him harder to predict, his speed alone isn't enough to keep slade down.

Not at all, it's still a style. I thought we agreed styles were for mediocre fighters?