Originally posted by jinzin
yes he was.....when he was first introduced in wolverine's comics...it was hinted that he may be of unworldly desent (i.e.gods) he bunched a car into debris and took a gut full o'claw and just got up later and laughed at logan......I don't think any of that's normal.....jeesh...and i don't know what I'm talking about.....lol.
Just a guy.
Originally posted by jinzin
dude.....that pic comes straight out of wolverine no.4 his first appearance...............not "later on"really...you're beginning to not even be worth the time to humiliate..........read the book.
In MY comic, Wolverine fights Roughouse in a bar in Madripoor, and Roughouse gets knocked down. A few pages later, Wolverine frees Roughouse - or tries to free him - and he is been thrown in the ocean. As the story continues, we see Tiger Shark and that young chick, Bandalera or whatever her name is, and Roughouse is mainly in chains.
No smashing cars. No superhuman abilities (though the general wanted Roughouse for his experiments which made him stronger if i am not mistaken).
Originally posted by who?-kid
Well, than I have another Wolverine comic than you have 😆In MY comic, Wolverine fights Roughouse in a bar in Madripoor, and Roughouse gets knocked down. A few pages later, Wolverine frees Roughouse - or tries to free him - and he is been thrown in the ocean. As the story continues, we see Tiger Shark and that young chick, Bandalera or whatever her name is, and Roughouse is mainly in chains.
No smashing cars. No superhuman abilities (though the general wanted Roughouse for his experiments which made him stronger if i am not mistaken).
Hmm... Roughhouse was defeated by Wolverine before that scenario (to win off the Princess Bar) and his unconscious body was sold off by the general. He was probably tortured and what not before we even see him in chains. The young mutant with the ability to inspire and who also fought Tiger Shark with Wolverine was La Bandera.
oh yes.....a comic that happens waaaaayyyyy after this one....AFTER.....I think the point you were trying to make was for "back then" you know...before.......do you seriously insist that roughhouse getting gutted and just standing up to that is a human feat? or him punching a car into debris? or him fightin spider woman and toying with her?
but okay for the comic you're reffering to....wolverine 17 or 18.....roughhouse was drugged up tortured cut open and drugged up some more.....and not chained up...he was on one of those crazy james bond tables with the restraints.....can't really go anwhere when you're ****ed up stregth sapped and have no leverage.....unless you're talking about wolverine 20 or 22 where roughouse was in even WORSE condition than previously stated......damn...
Originally posted by jinzin
oh yes.....a comic that happens waaaaayyyyy after this one....AFTER.....I think the point you were trying to make was for "back then" you know...before.......do you seriously insist that roughhouse getting gutted and just standing up to that is a human feat? or him punching a car into debris? or him fightin spider woman and toying with her? ...
how is spiderman the most toughest here when he fights people like mysterio and vulture and get his but handed to him. Spiderman is the weakest link in this fight, sorry to hurt anybody feelings. Stats of cyber, enormous strength, speed, adamantium skin healing factor, superb fighter (knows numerous of martial arts), adamantium claws, tipped with poison and hallacunate drugs, agile ( not as good as spiderman), read brain waves, no hiding, once youre cut by the drugs thats in his claws he can make u see what he wants you to. The guy dont even need to know how to fight, given his power, that alone gives him a win. Answer this question for me, do u think that cyber can beat kraven because spiderman has lost to kraven, who isnt nothing compared to sabertooth and wolverine. Do u think that cyber could beat tombstone ( who spiderman get his head slapped by on a regular basis) i think he could. Do you think that cyber could beat vulture, i think he could since the guy is in his late 80'. I didnt bring venom and carnage or rhino in the fight because spiderman never beat them by physical means. Cyber wins and 1st to go down is spiderman leaving ds to face an enrage adamantium covered cyber.
even so i think that although that cyber is bad ass, ds is more than able to take him out himself, and visaversa.
and if you want to base the fight on stats, spidy outdoes cyber in everything except durability. if you wanna talk comics, yes spidey is very sloppy. he often gets defeated by foes far inferioir to him. i think you make a very good point derrick, but like i said whenever someone tries to make this fight look easy cant let it be left too simplified.
Cyber doesn't control the victim that he uses his drug on, if he could he wouldn't have let the same drug drive him insane. And he is litterally insane, he has mild to severe destracting hallucinations constantly.
His super strength isn't at Spideys league and his fighting, speed, intelligence, reflexes aren't at DS league.
So, basically Cyber is the weak link. He can be taken out by a bullet to the face then suffacated.
thats actually what i thought initially. however not by alot. if ds shoots him, he doesnt even have to dodge. he can just put his arm in front of his face. and one careless mistake by either of the other 2, they're messed up for the whole match. though i highly doubt ds will make that mistake for he will know what do do preampitvely; as derrick proved, spidey can be very careless, he even says so in most of his battles. how else could he loose to foes such as kraven or vulture.
i dont think there is much that cyber can do to ds, but all it takes in the covering of the face and cyber is pretty much indestructable. i'm not exactly expert on the things ds carries with him, you mind giving me some kind of weapons list?