The most powerful X-Men

dino-rachel got to her while storm wasn't using a lightning field. rachel even admitted that if storm had gotten the field up she would have never shut her down. emma has tried on more than one occasion and failed, it would take intense concentration for her to do it given the facts about what storm was capable of with other telepaths. jean and xavier could do it, but at one point even xavier couldn't. it wasn't a full force slap, he just swatted her aside. also she is not trying to breakthrough the field, she manipulates everything that is inside of the field. he may have a chance at beating her, but she has a greater chance. also munk, i get a lot of my info from issue summaries, and pictures, i don't have enough money to butevery comic with storm in it because i am a lot younger than most people here, but i can honestly say that i haven't lied on the forums or have given false info yet. well i have about issue numbers but that's only because i can't excatley remember them

Originally posted by stormfront13
dino-rachel got to her while storm wasn't using a lightning field. rachel even admitted that if storm had gotten the field up she would have never shut her down. emma has tried on more than one occasion and failed, it would take intense concentration for her to do it given the facts about what storm was capable of with other telepaths. jean and xavier could do it, but at one point even xavier couldn't. it wasn't a full force slap, he just swatted her aside. also she is not trying to breakthrough the field, she manipulates everything that is inside of the field. he may have a chance at beating her, but she has a greater chance. also munk, i get a lot of my info from issue summaries, and pictures, i don't have enough money to butevery comic with storm in it because i am a lot younger than most people here, but i can honestly say that i haven't lied on the forums or have given false info yet. well i have about issue numbers but that's only because i can't excatley remember them

firstly, storm was fighting dino rachel and could do nothing...

how the hell can she affect the inside of his field?

just like she did magnetos, jeans, and unus's. i will look up the issue numbers right not, but she literallyfried unus right out ofhis own shield. and what do you mean could do nothing?? are you refering to when rachel put up blocks on storm while she was unconsious so that she couldn't access her mutant powers? rachel was literally giving everything she had to keep storm contained, and storm was going on pure determination. rachel couldn't even move or else storm would have been free, she had no way to protect herself from betsy walking rihgt up to her and stabbing her with a pshycic knife

Originally posted by stormfront13
just like she did magnetos, jeans, and unus's. i will look up the issue numbers right not, but she literallyfried unus right out ofhis own shield. and what do you mean could do nothing?? are you refering to when rachel put up blocks on storm while she was unconsious so that she couldn't access her mutant powers? rachel was literally giving everything she had to keep storm contained, and storm was going on pure determination. rachel couldn't even move or else storm would have been free, she had no way to protect herself from betsy walking rihgt up to her and stabbing her with a pshycic knife

yes, but she contained storm, using her own powers against her...

and you said the same thing about green lantern... not all forcefields are the same...

what do you mean?? as far as i'm aware of rachel contained storm because storm didn't have a field up and was goping on determination and was giving her a run for her mone, but rachel won. and yeah storm has afffected 4 different kinds of shields, as lond as anything is in it then she can affect it. also can binary be counted as a mutant because she is technically warbird like x 100

what do you mean?? as far as i'm aware of rachel contained storm because storm didn't have a field up and was goping on determination and was giving her a run for her mone, but rachel won.

rachel psionically bypassed her powers... yeah, great resistance...

as lond as anything is in it then she can affect it.

that, my good sir, is utter bullshit...

Those last waords of your's pr1983..........
😑 ❌ 😐 😖hifty: 👇 🤪 In two words....... Oh my!

Originally posted by wolvie'sgirl
Those last waords of your's pr1983..........
😑 ❌ 😐 😖hifty: 👇 🤪 In two words....... Oh my!

before you judge me so harshly, read the post i was replying to...

Originally posted by stormfront13
invulnerability won't mean crap when she can affect the inside of the field, and storm has taken a back-handed slap from the juggernaut and goten back up, one punch from cannonball aint taking her out. and glad wasn't even trying in that comic

Juggernaut only slap her, didn't hit really, Cannonballl only one hit, direct into her (with objective writing), can literally kill her.
Those fields that they have Jean, Magneto, it's different than Cannonball field (cause his field absorbs kinetic energy). When I will see she can affect Cannonball, than let's talk, for now, I don't think she can do it, Cannonball crushes her.
And if Xavier would go with powerful force against Ororo (but not with most powerful attack, but decent, maybe less), she wouldn't be able to resist for second. Those five could, especially those four, would easily crush Storm.
But I have Storm as 6 most powerful member of X-Men.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Those top ten you mentioned, those can only be you favorite mutants, but clearly not most powerful.

it was a list of the most powerful X-men.... 🙄

Obviously, otherwise Franklin Richards, Scarlet Witch etc. would all be there. Geez. Whats your list?

Storm is not immune to telepathy. Lightning field or no. The same way, Mags is not immune to telepathy without his helmet. Both of them are resistant. Stormfront if you have a comic where a powerful hostile telepath is unable to overcome Storm's lightning field, post a scan...

Also while Cannonballs force field is up he is invulnerable to almost all conventional attacks. Only magic and telepathy and the like can get through. How is Storm going to attack him? His shield isn't like a TK shield.

Regardless, Storm is clearly in the top ten of the X-men, although I wouldnt say shes one of the top ten mutants. Once you include non-X-men mutants you have Scarlet Witch, Magneto, Apocalypse, Franklin Richards, etc.

Originally posted by Phoenix_Avatar9
by influence of an outside force do you mean the Phoenix Force, i disagree since the phoenix is jean and since it is also rachel's mother, rachel inherites phoenix potential.

exactly.. its part of her, its not going away. Besides, even if it WAS some outside force, it wouldnt matter in the least. Someone like Juggernaut has ALL his power coming from an outside source, Psylocke was ramped up by an outside source, etc... in this case the force isn't even an unrelated outside one like the previous two. Someone has a bone to pick... 🙄

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
it was a list of the most powerful X-men.... 🙄

Obviously, otherwise Franklin Richards, Scarlet Witch etc. would all be there. Geez. Whats your list?

My list of 10 most powerful X-Men ever (no order):

Xavier
Phoenix
Juggernaut
Storm
Rogue
Cannonball
X-Man
Iceman
Emma Frost
Rachel

''Only magic and telepathy and the like can get through''

And the force that is more powerful than his field.

Originally posted by Xplosive
My list of 10 most powerful X-Men ever (no order):

Xavier
Phoenix
Juggernaut
Storm
Rogue
Cannonball
X-Man
Iceman
Emma Frost
Rachel

''Only magic and telepathy and the like can get through''

And the force that is more powerful than his field.

even Gladiator couldnt punch through his field, his most powerful punch. I dont think any amount of kinetic energy is getting through.

Why would Emma be in the top ten X-men? Shes done just about nothing powerful since joining the X-men. Before, as a villain, yea. Since, shes been depowered. The same exact thing with Juggernaut. He's been depowered since joining the X-men and now has trouble with Colossus level weights (X-men 157).

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
even Gladiator couldnt punch through his field, his most powerful punch. I dont think any amount of kinetic energy is getting through.

Why would Emma be in the top ten X-men? Shes done just about nothing powerful since joining the X-men. Before, as a villain, yea. Since, shes been depowered. The same exact thing with Juggernaut. He's been depowered since joining the X-men and now has trouble with Colossus level weights (X-men 157).

Of course it could go through. Also by one shot, but if not, than by more, and eventually he wouldn't be able to hold. And there are greater power than him, and those can go thorugh his field by force.

I gave Juggernaut, he is the name and we all know what he was once (more powerful than maby any X-Men, except Xavier and Nate, Phoenix, beacuse he was vulnerable to telepachy). Why they depowered him, I don't know.
Emma, I gave, cause I didn't have anyone to give anymore, maybe Bishop, Collossus.

Originally posted by Xplosive
Of course it could go through. Also by one shot, but if not, than by more, and eventually he wouldn't be able to hold. And there are greater power than him, and those can go thorugh his field by force.

I gave Juggernaut, he is the name and we all know what he was once (more powerful than maby any X-Men, except Xavier and Nate, Phoenix, beacuse he was vulnerable to telepachy). Why they depowered him, I don't know.

Originally posted by Xplosive

Emma, I gave, cause I didn't have anyone to give anymore, maybe Bishop, Collossus.

Well, Polaris, shes not well known but shes pretty damn powerful now. She knocked out a congregation of superhero guests at her aborted wedding in UXM 425.

Cable....

😄

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
because he joined the X-men 😄 Villains are almost always more powerful than heroes among the X-men anyway. Because its a team hero book.

Well, Polaris, shes not well known but shes pretty damn powerful now. She knocked out a congregation of superhero guests at her aborted wedding in UXM 425.

Cable....

😄

But Cable has never been an X-Men, work with them, but he wasn't specifecelly member of X-Men. Ok, I give Polaris.

I still stick by Forge being very powerful.

PR, it's not bullshit if she has done it on multiple occasions. yeah he's resistant to attak with his field, but no one has tried affecting the inside like she can. she is more than capable. but yeah those other four can beat her

Originally posted by stormfront13
PR, it's not bullshit if she has done it on multiple occasions. yeah he's resistant to attak with his field, but no one has tried affecting the inside like she can. she is more than capable. but yeah those other four can beat her

look stormfront13, I said she is 6 most powerful X-Man, you said 5th, but we don't don't agree about her and Cannonball. We can ask on versus forum, and will se whos will have most votes generally. If Storm will have, I will agree that she is more pwoerful, if she wont have, than I was right. Thisis the beast way than convincing eaach other.