Gay Men Banned As Anonymous Sperm Donors

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
No, it shouldn't matter if your kid turns out gay or straight, but I'd assume the parents would want to make that choice, and shouldn't be subjected to having a child with random sexuality possibly enhanced by someone elses genetics. Isn't the cry from homosexuals in situations like this usually something along the lines of "who would WANT to be gay"?

You can't, if they donate anonymously. That's the whole reason I'd be for the ban. There wouldn't BE any info.

Prove it.

What bothers me more than anything is reading that women/lesbians are seeking out gay sperm? How could someone be so selfish as to throw their kid into that situation? Why not take what you can get, let genetics take their course, and stop playing god with their sexuality. In cases like that, where they WANT a gay baby, I hope it backfires.

I have nothing to back it up, I admit it 😬
but u dont have prove either

You can't, if they donate anonymously. That's the whole reason I'd be for the ban. There wouldn't BE any info.

Then either don't take anomous sperm or make it required for people to fill in a stupid form about it...

Thats a lot less discriminating then simply banning gays....

Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
No, it shouldn't matter if your kid turns out gay or straight, but I'd assume the parents would want to make that choice, and shouldn't be subjected to having a child with random sexuality possibly enhanced by someone elses genetics. Isn't the cry from homosexuals in situations like this usually something along the lines of "who would WANT to be gay"?

You can't, if they donate anonymously. That's the whole reason I'd be for the ban. There wouldn't BE any info.

Prove it.

What bothers me more than anything is reading that women/lesbians are seeking out gay sperm? How could someone be so selfish as to throw their kid into that situation? Why not take what you can get, let genetics take their course, and stop playing god with their sexuality. In cases like that, where they WANT a gay baby, I hope it backfires.

oh and cine, if straight parents would like their kids to be straight
why cant gays want their kids to be gay??

This is ridiculous. Its like playing "lurgy" in the playground. Some people need to grow up big time. I'm horrified the FDA doesnt ask people to take blood tests before donating sperm... i guess i never really gave it much thought. It should be compulsary -it makes them banning gays from donating due to risk of HIV even more ridiculous. Also, if being gay was genetic there wudnt be very many gays....

Originally posted by naybean
. Also, if being gay was genetic there wudnt be very many gays....

If you want to get technical, homosexuality is just basically a extreme degree of a chemical imbalance.
A chemical imbalance is technically a mental disorder, aren't doners with mental disorders banned as well? Yes, they are.

Originally posted by long pig
I've heard enough people use that bullshit line around each other without a proper responce.
You know as well as I do more than the majority of gays have sex more than once and with more than one person of the opposite gender.
Less now than when being gay meant outcast, but still more than the majority.

If you want to get technical, homosexuality is just basically a extreme degree of a chemical imbalance.
A chemical imbalance is technically a mental disorder, aren't doners with mental disorders banned as well? Yes, they are.

This is probably the most stupid and ignorant thing I have ever heard.......you can't seriously compare homosexuality with a mental disorder.

Originally posted by long pig
I've heard enough people use that bullshit line around each other without a proper responce.
You know as well as I do more than the majority of gays have sex more than once and with more than one person of the opposite gender.
Less now than when being gay meant outcast, but still more than the majority.

If you want to get technical, homosexuality is just basically a extreme degree of a chemical imbalance.
A chemical imbalance is technically a mental disorder, aren't doners with mental disorders banned as well? Yes, they are.

A chemical imbalance? Could you point me towards some sort of scientific study that says that being gay is a chemical imbalance? Maybe I could just stand on my head, and then I'll start being attracted to girls.

Gay this, homosexual that, you can complain all you want but theres nothing that you can do to change that stupid monkey president of ours opinion.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
A chemical imbalance? Could you point me towards some sort of scientific study that says that being gay is a chemical imbalance? Maybe I could just stand on my head, and then I'll start being attracted to girls.

I so can understand if you would want to cut straight peoples balls off

It's common wisdom, It's been shown for years that homosexuality is a chemical imbalance, if your too far stuck up your own beliefs to see it as a fact, I can't help you.

A chemical imbalance? Could you point me towards some sort of scientific study that says that being gay is a chemical imbalance? Maybe I could just stand on my head, and then I'll start being attracted to girls.

This is probably the most stupid and ignorant thing I have ever heard.......you can't seriously compare homosexuality with a mental disorder.

Well if saying that gay peopel don't have a mental disorder is homophobic...I guess I'm a homophobe then.

No seriously if you would argue that it is genetic or whatever thats fine with me I don't agree but its ok...just your whole tyope of argueing and pretending everythign you say...would actually be a fact (even though it even lacks basic evidence) is just stupid.

I've heard people say they think it's a chemical imbalance before... it's not that rare of a theory. It's not a fact because they can't prove it so far.. but it's certainly nothing new.

Originally posted by long pig
It's common wisdom, It's been shown for years that homosexuality is a chemical imbalance, if your too far stuck up your own beliefs to see it as a fact, I can't help you.

-sigh- we get it, you're gay. I don't care.
You have no kind of pull in this debate,
being gay kind of leaves you in a biased spot don't you think?
You defending everything that is "gay" is just you defending yourself, making everything you say worthless and unbelievable in this type of discussion.

Really? most stupid huh? You must not ever talk to anyone other than people who agree with you.
To dismiss a fact that has been used to defend homosexuality as a non-choice, kind of makes you look silly and homophobic to me.

Then, by all means, show me evidence that what you say is useful and believable. If me being gay is a chemical imbalance, then post a link to a study. Post a link to a page that isn't funded by the christian right or motivated by their agenda. Show us why what you have to say IS worthy and believable. It sounds to me that you have no use for my point of view, others would disagree.

No, being gay doesn't make me biased. What makes me biased is hatred of ignorance. And, if you had any sort of insight into my views, which are scattered all over this forum, you would know that I don't support all issues that are "gay". Before you open your mouth and make an ass of yourself, I suggest you do a bit of research. I don't defend gay rights. I think the idea of gay rights is ridiculous. If you want to attack someone's credability, then you should know why you're attacking them. And it should be for reasons beyond their sexuality.

So, once again, I ask you: "Where is your scientific evidence?"

I know it's hard to understand that this whole big "equal gay rights" subject is mostly just the resort of a chemical imbalance.
Don't shoot the messenger people.

I understand you don't want to offend your gay friends who believe themselves to be naturally gay, if I had tons of gay friends I wouldn't say it outloud either.

Hard to swallow facts are still facts, you can't go your entire life saying "I don't like it so I refuse to believe it", because that, my friend would be "just stupid".

No, being gay doesn't make me biased

I don't support all issues that are "gay"

I don't defend gay rights. I think the idea of gay rights is ridiculous.

So, once again, I ask you: "Where is your scientific evidence?"

Dude I don't know one person in real life that is gay...the only one here I know who is gay is Capt Fantastic.........and even if he wasn't here I would just think it to be a good idea to get some scientific proof....you know what that is right? Like a study of real scientists ....better even more than one....you coul for examnple post a web site that has some proof...plus even than gays wouldn'*t be stupid but psychologically different...like authistic people maybe.....plus equal rights are necessary none the less.

Well long pig...you are heterosexual right...so you can't really say anything aboot peoples rights anyway cause you are biased right....actually all the amendments to the constitution...you can't say anything aboot them since you are to closely involeved ...they are aboot you...you are biased.

Originally posted by long pig
I know it's hard to understand that this whole big "equal gay rights" subject is mostly just the resort of a chemical imbalance.
Don't shoot the messenger people.

I understand you don't want to offend your gay friends who believe themselves to be naturally gay, if I had tons of gay friends I wouldn't say it outloud either.

Hard to swallow facts are still facts, you can't go your entire life saying "I don't like it so I refuse to believe it", because that, my friend would be "just stupid".

If these are such widely accepted 'facts', then you should be able to provide some references. As it is, you dig yourself deeper into a hole by side stepping my request. You can get as personal as you like, no one reading this expects anything more from you.

I don't choose my words with anyone other than myself in mind. In case you hadn't noticed, there aren't too many gay people on this board, at least not many who will actually admit it. Most likely because they don't want to deal with people like you. But, I'm not intimidated by your backwards thinking...or your willingness to openly express it. You can attack me because I'm gay and then hide it behind "hard to swallow facts" all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that you refuse to provide any facts to back up your claim. And like Afro Cheese said, it isn't a new idea, so you should be able to substantiate it.

Oh, and most of my friends are straight.

Originally posted by long pig
Actually, it does.
You're the equivalent to a a black man or a white man defending his own race. You're biased and give nothing to this discussion that I wouldn't hear from any other homosexual.