Shazam vs Silver Surfer

Just because he didn't use light speed reflexes in that one instance doesn't mean that he CAN'T.

Now lets just say that he doesn't have light speed reflexes just for the sake of argument. On his board he can still travel faster than the speed of light (or 99% the speed of light depending on which comics you read). Which means that he can zip around CM and blast him. It would take quite a few blasts, but I believe CM would get K.O. ed sooner or later. Surfer can unleash blasts strong enough to level a large city. That's pretty powerful.

as far as CM having "The Wisdom of Solomon"... well as I have already said... the wisdom of a biblical mortal is not enough to counter the countless years Surfer has of being a herald of galactus. BTW, Surfer is gifted in the intelligence area as well and he has the "cosmic awareness."

Originally posted by dawsey28
as far as CM having "The Wisdom of Solomon"... well as I have already said... the wisdom of a biblical mortal is not enough to counter the countless years Surfer has of being a herald of galactus. BTW, Surfer is gifted in the intelligence area as well and he has the "cosmic awareness."

The wisdom of a "biblical mortal" gives CM 1,000's of years intellegence strategy and wisdom.

Is countless years of Surfer being Galactu's herald more than that? I doubt it. If so, proof would be nice.

Plus, Dr. Strange is smarter and wiser than Surfer. Surfer may be gifted, but not that gifted.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Funny you post that pic. Because I just went and dug it out of the long box and counted not one, not two but three times Rhino hits Surfer.

Now I thought Surfer could react and think at lightspeeds.

The first hit was a right hook sending Surfer off his board.
The second hit Rhino rips a bubble gum machine out of the ground and wacks him across the head with it.
The third hit Rhino charged him and hit him with his horn.

Now I know Rhino is no match for Surfer but where was that lightspeed reaction time at?

If he did react / think at light speed all the time. (Cosmic Cube showed scans of both of them)

If he did that all his fights would last a nono second(not fun is it).

This is the case with most speedsters. (Superman , Gladiator etc)

-Just like how slow pokes punch Superman.
-Just like how Wonder Man/ Thor actually got a hit on Gladiator (since he showed he can react/move at 100X light speed) etc.

It’s a comic book they need a story and light speed is only use in some cases.

Originally posted by O.D Geist
The wisdom of a "biblical mortal" gives CM 1,000's of years intellegence strategy and wisdom.

Is countless years of Surfer being Galactu's herald more than that? I doubt it. If so, proof would be nice.

Plus, Dr. Strange is smarter and wiser than Surfer. Surfer may be gifted, but not that gifted.

Even if I'm wrong here and Surfer is less intelligent than Solomon, it doesn't matter because Surfer can still just zip around and blast him. So it's not like CM will win just because he's wiser.

And I'm new so I can't show scans or links. I've already tried. The administrators won't let me.

Originally posted by dawsey28
Even if I'm wrong here and Surfer is less intelligent than Solomon, it doesn't matter because Surfer can still just zip around and blast him. So it's not like CM will win just because he's wiser.

And I'm new so I can't show scans or links. I've already tried. The administrators won't let me.

Originally posted by dawsey28
Even if I'm wrong here and Surfer is less intelligent than Solomon, it doesn't matter because Surfer can still just zip around and blast him. So it's not like CM will win just because he's wiser.

And I'm new so I can't show scans or links. I've already tried. The administrators won't let me.

First, Welcome..

Intellegence in a battle goes a long way. I dont doubt that CM can take a surfer blast. I dont boubt that Surfer can take a CM blast. They are both powerfull. Hard to say who wins though.

Surfer does have most abilities. Will they work on CM is another story. Being wise with power can take you far. Look at Strange.

Thanks for the Welcome and that goes for everyone else who has welcomed me. I do appreciate it.

Just look at the scale:
WISDOM OF SOLOMON

Surfer has experience, gifted intelligence, Cosmic Awareness

STRENGTH OF HERCULES

Surfer has the ability to endow himself with class 100 strength (lifting over 100 tons)

STAMINA OF ATLAS

Surfer can stand in the middle of a supernova and has survived some pretty powerful blasts from enemies.

POWER OF ZEUS

This may give CM an edge but Surfer has the Power Cosmic and a long list of powers and abilities.

COURAGE OF ACHILLES

Well, it's not like Surfer's not courageous.

SPEED OF MERCURY

Surfer can move very fast on his Board.

You see, everything CM has in some degree Surfer also has.

I admit it won't be a cakewalk for Surfer. It'll be a difficult fight, but I just can't see CM winning at the end of the day.

I cant see anyone winning really.

Well I found another example of Surfer not using his "lightspeed reaction" and its not even a fight.

Silver Surfer/Warlock resurrection #1 Surfer was flying on his board and out of nowhere Drax appears in front of him and Surfer runs right into Drax and falls off his board. I could be wrong but I think Drax even stole his board.

Surfer wasnt even flying that fast either so where was that "lightspeed reaction" at once again?

Originally posted by kgkg
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-Just like how slow pokes punch Superman.
-Just like how Wonder Man/ Thor actually got a hit on Gladiator (since he showed he can react/move at 100X light speed) etc.

Uhh Ohh.

Of all the characters that can move, react fater than light speeds, there has been many times where they have been caought off guard or had a slow reaction to something.

I hate when people bring up a character having light speed reflexes in battle. Or being able to speedblitz someone. When a scan comes up that has them not doing it, it makes them look pretty bad.

Speed only plays a factor mostly when theres clearly speed disadvantrage. Otherwise it be best not to mention it. Imo.

I just reread the time he fought Abomination. Abom actually knocked Surfer loopy and it weakened him from one punch. Where was that "lightspeed reaction"at?

Oh yea.........its true

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Then why do you guys bring up the "nanosecond" thing all the time?

Because Surfer has shown he can move, think, and react in a nanosecond or less. What I don't understand is why people tend to bring up a characters worst fights instead of their greatest feats. Maybe it's just a bias.

Or maybe your just blind.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Or maybe your just blind.

Blind to what? Certainly not your bias.

Man I can show you more examples of Surfer not reacting at lightspeed than you can show me him using it. Your just blind to the fact that he JUST DONT REACT AT LIGHTSPEED ALL THE TIME.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Man I can show you more examples of Surfer not reacting at lightspeed than you can show me him using it. Your just blind to the fact that he JUST DONT REACT AT LIGHTSPEED ALL THE TIME.

No, he doesn't. Superman doesn't always move planets. No one always exercises their potential. That's a sorry excuse for an argument. Take some time and read the forum rules.

I dont care what the forum rules say. Did you ever hear me say Superman moves planets therefore he will kill Surfer? Nope.

You and your pal kgkg always say this will be over in a "nanosecond" in almost every thread that has Surfer in it.

Deal with it.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I dont care what the forum rules say. Did you ever hear me say Superman moves planets therefore he will kill Surfer? Nope.

You and your pal kgkg always say this will be over in a "nanosecond" in almost every thread that has Surfer in it.

Deal with it.

"I wonder if Superman can break Surfer's neck?" 😆

When you post in a thread do you keep the rules in mind? You know you dont cause if you did you would never use the "nanosecond" thing all of the time.